At Last ... Everything ....
I refer to my model of the Universe, the one that informs my writing and my opinions about super-nature, and every once in a while I intimate that I might post something about it, but two things have held me back. One, that my mind-exercise has taken place over a couple of decades and the notes are in far too higgledy-piggledy a condition for me to rationalise them all into a single comprehensive (even comprehensible) document. The other is that I'd no idea where to put it ... until now.
The “until now” actually relates to a third reason, which is that I'm not scientifically well-read and every single argument I am about to put forward will probably be either poorly stated or open to the widest criticism from those who “know more about these things”, so with the proviso that I'm putting these thoughts forward, not for correction or dissection, but for the sake of those who might take them to the next stage or see some validity in my suspicions (about how things work), here goes.
Infinity
I don't know about you, but concepts such as Infinity and Eternity have always been limited in my imagination. Until recently the idea of something beyond which it is impossible to conceive of anything but more of the same has been pretty tricky to get a grip on. But it's an extremely important concept and, really, it's a perspective-boggling idea altogether.
Infinity isn't just very, very big. It's Everything. Some have said that it's Anything. Some have hypothesised infinite decisions leading to infinite universes infinitely different. Smacks a bit of wish fulfilment, to me, but it doesn't affect my thesis much. I just personally dislike the idea that there's a Me in another Universe having a much better time of it than I am. So, we'll let that slide
and accept for now that the existence we know is the only one that matters. So where did it come from?
A Pretty Big Bang
It matters little whether it's a Big Bang or a Big Tickle, it could never have happened but for infinity and I have two workings for this, one poetic and one pseud.
Poetic: In the beginning there was nothing. Nothing was infinitely big, infinitely small, for it was Nothing. And it was forever and for no time for it was Nothing and it was All. As it was, so it remained and repeated until it was compounded with itself and became a Pulse. And the Pulse was All but it was Something and Time began. And as Time proceeded into the void it returned to its origin and became the Second Pulse. From Nothing, the emergence of Time caused Pulse and Pattern which became Energy and Matter and these coagulated into one mighty and infinite Oneness that compressed and contracted until --- Critical Mass ..... Birth of a Universe from A Big Bang.
As Mass sought companionship, worlds and stars were born, each in its logic, each to its rules, each with its well-defined and legal orbit, all connected to the Origin by these laws.
Perhaps the pattern and flow of the Universe brought it to Consciousness and It became Aware. It certainly behaves like this as our own consciousness reaches towards It and invites or directs It. This is not confirmed or contradicted by this model.
Pragmatic: In an Infinity or an Eternity, nothing happens only once – or in another sense Nothing happens over and over again. For each Creation, there is a variation, not separated and boxed elsewhere (there is no “elsewhere” beyond an Infinity), but co-extant. Creation may come about by reason of Time echoing on itself or by the convergence, even a light, brushing contact between two neighbouring dimensions, Universes or Localities. The result, which brought us to existence, is the same.
And through variation, dissimilarity, incompatibility, there can be (sorry, but it's the origin of the title) Interference.
Allowing the mystery of the Origin of The Big Bang to remain for a moment, let us envisage Infinity with several Localities (or Universes, depending on your comfort-zone), each created by similar and dissimilar means. Localities where Universal Laws are different, due to the differences in their origins. Anti-Matter Localities, Localities where the Speed of Light is faster or slower by large or small amounts, Localities which are impossible to perceive by use of the fundamental senses of which you and I are aware (we call these “Other Dimensions”), Localities where each separate Locality is perceptible to a greater or lesser extent, Localities where Life emerges as well as some where it is itself a form of Life.
To these, we may not necessarily be connected. To some we are, to others we aren't and can never be in our current state of reality. Others impact on us without our awareness or reflect us without our knowledge. But all are encapsulated within the dimension we have called Time.
Time and Space
We have a very, very localised conception of these. We know what we experience and we experience what we know. Cyclic again, as everything must be.
Time is probably, though not necessarily, the most important concept any creature can have an awareness of. Without it, nothing would change (obviously) and nothing could be experienced (equally obviously). If there's anything that's more important, I don't know what it is.
And that's my point.
No one, not one single human born in our reality, can have any but the vaguest concept of anything more important than Time and its inexorable rush towards Eternity because it's taking us, briefly, on that journey with it. But there is anecdotal evidence and some scientific thought that suggests that time is not immutable. If Time has beginning and ending, how can this be possible?
And this argument is to confuse the bread with the oven it's baked in.
Time we experience and recognise. But there may be other “things” that we get “feelings” about from occasionally. Where does consciousness come from, anyway? What is the origin of Love in our paradigm? Of hate, of fulfilment, of ambition? Are our strongest, least rational emotions the only response our consciousness can come up with to explain the brief intersection of inter-phasing dimensions? “Your inherent frequency response is similar to mine and we are connected through the 29th dimension, as a result, I love you – we are literally on the same wavelength – I get a good vibe off of you”.
Visualising Space-time is, in some ways, much harder than conceptualising Infinity or Eternity. The usual model is of a sphere with us as a dot somewhere on that sphere.
Wrong.
Space-time is a spherical mass with us as something less than a dot, less than an atom of a dot, less than a blemish on an atom of a dot somewhere inside the mass. If I go back and do the Grandfather Paradox Roundelay I'll end up in an endless, timeless loop.
So what? So, one minor fragment of something less than a blemish on an atom of a dot somewhere inside the mass of Space-time gets a little confused, the rest of the Orb isn't even going to notice it any more than you'd notice a molecule of oxygen hitting your eyeball. Seriously, don't even worry about it. If you want to go into an endless time-loop, help yourself. You want to help Hitler win the war? Go for it, my son, someone will almost certainly weigh the pros and cons later and put things back the way they were, or better. A bit messy, but less than the breath of a gnat on the Atlantic's oceanic surface.
Good Vibrations
You want to achieve Cosmic Consciousness, though, now that is something that deserves proper attention. What it requires is an understanding of the fact that you are a multi-dimensional creature whose tendrels extend beyond anything you can consciously perceive without some effort. Not that we live multi-dimensional lives, as such, but beyond the four or five that we know of without thinking, we touch and are touched in varying degrees by the infinity of others.
In my model, these connections are due to the pulse-origin of, essentially, everything, though locally it can as easily have been the friction origin that makes us who we are now.
Down to our fundamental parts, we are things of vibration. We are, each of us, a song and some of us can become a symphony.
To those of you who are still reading up to this point, my wholesome gratitude and heartiest congratulations. To anyone who can see in what I've said even a fragment of a blemish of a possibility of truth, let's exchange ideas. Anyone who agrees completely with every word, with just one or two little things they'd like to point out – I want you to have my children. I mean it. Take them ....
Wind it up, for Gawd's sake
At this point I'll conclude with a few open-ended questions which I intend exploring (and in some cases have already explored) in my books and other writings. If ghosts exist, why do they exist? Do aliens necessarily come from a planet and travel through space to meet us? Is folk-lore true and did fairies, werewolves and the Holy Ghost really exist?
Things such as Time Manipulation, Love and Romance, Faeries, Ghosts, Time/Dimensional Slips, Vampires, Exploration and Conflict, Recognition and Reality, Demons, Connections, Existence, Mortality and loads of other stuff are pretty much all covered in the volumes collectively titled - Interference.
References
My head. Some other people's heads. A couple of the more obvious text books. A couple of the extremely obvious TV shows. A few of the better comics. Some of the worse ones. Various fictional writings of other sorts.
Thank you. You can take the rest of the day off, now.
The “until now” actually relates to a third reason, which is that I'm not scientifically well-read and every single argument I am about to put forward will probably be either poorly stated or open to the widest criticism from those who “know more about these things”, so with the proviso that I'm putting these thoughts forward, not for correction or dissection, but for the sake of those who might take them to the next stage or see some validity in my suspicions (about how things work), here goes.
Infinity
I don't know about you, but concepts such as Infinity and Eternity have always been limited in my imagination. Until recently the idea of something beyond which it is impossible to conceive of anything but more of the same has been pretty tricky to get a grip on. But it's an extremely important concept and, really, it's a perspective-boggling idea altogether.
Infinity isn't just very, very big. It's Everything. Some have said that it's Anything. Some have hypothesised infinite decisions leading to infinite universes infinitely different. Smacks a bit of wish fulfilment, to me, but it doesn't affect my thesis much. I just personally dislike the idea that there's a Me in another Universe having a much better time of it than I am. So, we'll let that slide
and accept for now that the existence we know is the only one that matters. So where did it come from?A Pretty Big Bang
It matters little whether it's a Big Bang or a Big Tickle, it could never have happened but for infinity and I have two workings for this, one poetic and one pseud.
Poetic: In the beginning there was nothing. Nothing was infinitely big, infinitely small, for it was Nothing. And it was forever and for no time for it was Nothing and it was All. As it was, so it remained and repeated until it was compounded with itself and became a Pulse. And the Pulse was All but it was Something and Time began. And as Time proceeded into the void it returned to its origin and became the Second Pulse. From Nothing, the emergence of Time caused Pulse and Pattern which became Energy and Matter and these coagulated into one mighty and infinite Oneness that compressed and contracted until --- Critical Mass ..... Birth of a Universe from A Big Bang.
As Mass sought companionship, worlds and stars were born, each in its logic, each to its rules, each with its well-defined and legal orbit, all connected to the Origin by these laws.
Perhaps the pattern and flow of the Universe brought it to Consciousness and It became Aware. It certainly behaves like this as our own consciousness reaches towards It and invites or directs It. This is not confirmed or contradicted by this model.
Pragmatic: In an Infinity or an Eternity, nothing happens only once – or in another sense Nothing happens over and over again. For each Creation, there is a variation, not separated and boxed elsewhere (there is no “elsewhere” beyond an Infinity), but co-extant. Creation may come about by reason of Time echoing on itself or by the convergence, even a light, brushing contact between two neighbouring dimensions, Universes or Localities. The result, which brought us to existence, is the same.
And through variation, dissimilarity, incompatibility, there can be (sorry, but it's the origin of the title) Interference.
Allowing the mystery of the Origin of The Big Bang to remain for a moment, let us envisage Infinity with several Localities (or Universes, depending on your comfort-zone), each created by similar and dissimilar means. Localities where Universal Laws are different, due to the differences in their origins. Anti-Matter Localities, Localities where the Speed of Light is faster or slower by large or small amounts, Localities which are impossible to perceive by use of the fundamental senses of which you and I are aware (we call these “Other Dimensions”), Localities where each separate Locality is perceptible to a greater or lesser extent, Localities where Life emerges as well as some where it is itself a form of Life.
To these, we may not necessarily be connected. To some we are, to others we aren't and can never be in our current state of reality. Others impact on us without our awareness or reflect us without our knowledge. But all are encapsulated within the dimension we have called Time.
Time and Space
We have a very, very localised conception of these. We know what we experience and we experience what we know. Cyclic again, as everything must be.
Time is probably, though not necessarily, the most important concept any creature can have an awareness of. Without it, nothing would change (obviously) and nothing could be experienced (equally obviously). If there's anything that's more important, I don't know what it is.
And that's my point.
No one, not one single human born in our reality, can have any but the vaguest concept of anything more important than Time and its inexorable rush towards Eternity because it's taking us, briefly, on that journey with it. But there is anecdotal evidence and some scientific thought that suggests that time is not immutable. If Time has beginning and ending, how can this be possible?
And this argument is to confuse the bread with the oven it's baked in.
Time we experience and recognise. But there may be other “things” that we get “feelings” about from occasionally. Where does consciousness come from, anyway? What is the origin of Love in our paradigm? Of hate, of fulfilment, of ambition? Are our strongest, least rational emotions the only response our consciousness can come up with to explain the brief intersection of inter-phasing dimensions? “Your inherent frequency response is similar to mine and we are connected through the 29th dimension, as a result, I love you – we are literally on the same wavelength – I get a good vibe off of you”.
Visualising Space-time is, in some ways, much harder than conceptualising Infinity or Eternity. The usual model is of a sphere with us as a dot somewhere on that sphere.
Wrong.
Space-time is a spherical mass with us as something less than a dot, less than an atom of a dot, less than a blemish on an atom of a dot somewhere inside the mass. If I go back and do the Grandfather Paradox Roundelay I'll end up in an endless, timeless loop.
So what? So, one minor fragment of something less than a blemish on an atom of a dot somewhere inside the mass of Space-time gets a little confused, the rest of the Orb isn't even going to notice it any more than you'd notice a molecule of oxygen hitting your eyeball. Seriously, don't even worry about it. If you want to go into an endless time-loop, help yourself. You want to help Hitler win the war? Go for it, my son, someone will almost certainly weigh the pros and cons later and put things back the way they were, or better. A bit messy, but less than the breath of a gnat on the Atlantic's oceanic surface.
Good Vibrations
You want to achieve Cosmic Consciousness, though, now that is something that deserves proper attention. What it requires is an understanding of the fact that you are a multi-dimensional creature whose tendrels extend beyond anything you can consciously perceive without some effort. Not that we live multi-dimensional lives, as such, but beyond the four or five that we know of without thinking, we touch and are touched in varying degrees by the infinity of others.
In my model, these connections are due to the pulse-origin of, essentially, everything, though locally it can as easily have been the friction origin that makes us who we are now.
Down to our fundamental parts, we are things of vibration. We are, each of us, a song and some of us can become a symphony.
To those of you who are still reading up to this point, my wholesome gratitude and heartiest congratulations. To anyone who can see in what I've said even a fragment of a blemish of a possibility of truth, let's exchange ideas. Anyone who agrees completely with every word, with just one or two little things they'd like to point out – I want you to have my children. I mean it. Take them ....
Wind it up, for Gawd's sake
At this point I'll conclude with a few open-ended questions which I intend exploring (and in some cases have already explored) in my books and other writings. If ghosts exist, why do they exist? Do aliens necessarily come from a planet and travel through space to meet us? Is folk-lore true and did fairies, werewolves and the Holy Ghost really exist?
Things such as Time Manipulation, Love and Romance, Faeries, Ghosts, Time/Dimensional Slips, Vampires, Exploration and Conflict, Recognition and Reality, Demons, Connections, Existence, Mortality and loads of other stuff are pretty much all covered in the volumes collectively titled - Interference.
References
My head. Some other people's heads. A couple of the more obvious text books. A couple of the extremely obvious TV shows. A few of the better comics. Some of the worse ones. Various fictional writings of other sorts.
Thank you. You can take the rest of the day off, now.
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*reels and falls to the floor*
*sits up and stares unblinkingly*
*shakes head vigorously*
Whoa! That is some really deep stuff for a shallow mind such as mine, but I'm trying to get my brain around it. Can I get back to you on some of this?
I should read your books! If you write nearly this well in your books, I'd be enthralled for hours on end!
You can keep the children, though. Thanks all the same. One of my 'sleeps on the sofa all hours of the day and night' lumps...er...offspring still under the roof is enough, thank you all the same.
And to your questions? Ghosts? No. But I do believe, if a connection with another person is strong enough, and both parties long for contact, then after someone dies, that contact continues for a short time. Case in point, twice, right after my dear father-in-law Harold died, I 'saw' him, but not with my eyes. The first time, I was standing in the kitchen on a quiet afternoon washing the dishes, and I 'perceived' my husband get up and walk toward the front of the house. My first thought was that, 'gee, he looks an awful lot like his dad' and my second was that he had awakened from his nap in his recliner chair in the family room. I didn't think much about it until I looked up and saw him still in his chair sound asleep at which point I laughed out load and said, "Knock it off, Harold!". The second time, maybe a week later, again, Dear Husband was sleeping in his recliner on a quiet afternoon with our then 6 yr. old son cradled sleeping in his arms. That time, I 'saw' Harold standing over them with a beautiful smile on his face. It was just a flash, and then Harold was gone, but it was enough to know that he could go Home now. We were all going to be okay without him. It hasn't happened again since. That was in 1999. I've had similar experiences with others (including a pet cat I had for 17 years), as well. I can't explain it and stopped trying to a long time ago. In fact, I rather enjoy it when it happens. It's very....surreal.
As to the rest of them, well, Werepeople, we're real enough - according to you. Reality is what you make it.
I'll leave you with that thought. *wink*
WWPosted 30th May 2009 at 09:20 PM by Werewoman
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Gosh! A reply
And a highly intriguing reply, too. These things really do happen to real people, WW, and if we discount hallucination and wish-fulfillment, as in most cases it's quite plausible to do, then the reason for them has to be to do with the fabric of the Universe and how we relate to it.
I'm happy for you that you find your experiences pleasant and reassuring. I suppose that's what they're meant to be, in the end. The Universe and its contents aren't out to hurt us. If it were, there are easier ways.
Thank you for the comment, I really appreciate you getting to the end *Round of applause*Posted 31st May 2009 at 08:14 PM by Interference -
Definitely not a halucination or otherwise explainable...
I know a halucination when I see one and it was no halucination.
Halucinations don't give that feeling that something beyond what you experience in your normal, everyday life has just happened and your whole Concept of Being has just been rewritten for you.
They just make you go, "whaazat?" and leave you puzzles as to whether or not you actually saw something.
What I experienced with Harold was on a whole other plane of existence, and while he and I did discuss it a few weeks before he died, there was no discussion about either of us wanting it. We just explored the possibility.Posted 2nd June 2009 at 03:45 AM by Werewoman - WWWWWWhich leads us straight back to the question of what the Universe really is like and how do we fit into it, because I'm pretty sure we don't perceive as much as we experience. Experience happens beyond us and inside us. We have a physical portion of ourselves, which in the end is the smallest part of us, that contains a brain that interprets for our mundane needs. We are beyond the mundane, though, so why can't we always perceive that greater part of us? What makes us locked into our perceived reality when our actual reality may be as broad and as wide as infinity itself.
Do we have souls? Do we have an afterlife to look forward to? Or do souls have us and this is just an inter-life?
I think I'm working towards my answer to this. Anyone care to join me on the trip?Posted 6th June 2009 at 09:41 PM by Interference - Can I get back to you on this one?
I see where you're coming from, but I'm having a hard time dealing with the whole concept of what I call 'forbidden knowledge'. Though I seriously question my own notions about it.
Example: In the early eons of human existence, only women knew 'where babies come from'. Common knowledge at the time was that children were conceived through Divine Intervention. There was no connection made between sexual intercourse and reproduction. Conception of a child was 'forbidden knowledge' for the male of the species for survival reasons. Women chose their mates based on a man's ability to provide and fidelity never factored into the picture. Stronger males produce stronger, faster sperm, thus, the survival of the fittest.
None of what I just said answered any of your questions, did it?
Oh well, it sounds good.
WW
Edit: We perceive what we want to perceive. I certainly don't feel locked in my own perceived reality. Hmmm...maybe that's why I'm so chemically imbalanced. Maybe I'm not chemically imbalanced at all, maybe my 'mental illness' is another reality occuring on another plane of existence where I'm considered one of the normal ones. Maybe what we perceive as the ranting of a derranged individual is actually their perception of that greater part of themselves. Maybe those who hear 'voices' and see things 'that are not there' are actually in touch with the infinity of the universe and react to what they hear and see in a different reality. We call it a disease of the brain, but is it? I think it's possible, though maybe not probably that these people have found a way to percieve reality as broad and as wide as infinity itself.
As to souls? I think we do. There is so much more to us than our phsical bodies and our personalities. At least, I hope I have a soul.
I don't think there is an afterlife as a continuation of this life. I think it is so far beyond our comprehension that we keep trying to find ways to explain it in such a way that we can understand it. All that nonsense about 'floating' and seeing our bodies from the ceiling is a bunch of hooey as well as 'the light at the end of the tunnel'. Again, people perceive what they want to perceive and it's different for each person. In both the former instances, someone perceived it, and many other's jumped on the bandwagon because they perceived it as the truth and wanted to experience it for themselves, that's all.
So, now that I've really mucked it up for you...Posted 11th June 2009 at 09:05 AM by Werewoman
Updated 11th June 2009 at 09:30 AM by Werewoman - You have to try harder if you want to muck it up
Okay, first, I love the opening, nobody knowing where babies came from, it sounds so plausible and convincing to me, any evidence for it, cos that's something I'd love to quote at my next dinner party (which will, coincidentally, be my first dinner party - now I have a reason to go)
Second: We perceive what we want ... not so sure, sometimes it hurts us so why would we want to perceive it. However and alternatively (not to say "on the other hand", which I consider one of the less wonderful cliches available to the average pundit in mid-pund), in order to achieve a suitable level of awareness, even painful things must be perceived.
Is mental skew-wiffiness in fact multi-dimensional supremeness? Dangerous territory and one for which I have a number of solutions. I am firmly convinced that time can get a bit muddled, either by accident or design. It's fanciful fun, for example, to think of Jeanne d'Arc's voices as being practical jokers from the future. It's a lark to wonder if most voices of God or Devil are in fact a TV game show from 2523, along the lines of Jackass TV or Candid Camera. "Let's see how this pensioner reacts as she cashes her pension and suddenly hear's the Voice of God saying 'Give it to Charity, You nasty old woman'."
Dangerous territory, however, because mental jiggery-pokery is kind of a complete mystery. In my life, I have heard a different voice with exceptional clarity speak my name. The voice has always been female, it has only ever been my name, and it has always been in the twilight between wakefulness and sleep, so I accept it as being a psycho-acoustic effect of some sort. To prove this, I have trained my inner-ear to hear music when I'm on a bus. My brain filters the even background hum of the bus engine and all that goes with it and picks out only what appears to be melodic. This alters and drifts according to changes in the speed of the bus and the gears engaged, so sometimes some seriously off melodies and arrangements are the result.
But I do this consciously. If my brain filters decided to do it without telling me, I would be convinced I was hearing heavenly choirs and Angel-Song. And I'd then be called mad or a Prophet or a Mad Prophet.
So the brain can produce the sounds of voices and even words without our conscious assistance, and these can sound as real as the voice of the person next to you now saying, "What are you working on? Is that work?"
On the other hand, I acknowledge our multi-dimensional existence as a fact. As such, I can well understand how progressing from awareness to awareness on our journey to Ultimate Knowledge will include the odd residue of former states of awareness. This may result in a behavioural response at the 4-dimensional level we currently experience most fully. But I'm not yet ready to use that as a defence in a court of law -- not quite yet
Personally, I am willing to accept the existence of a soul but I cannot subscribe to the current definition, if that makes any sense (It does to me). With this as a basis, it actually isn't so much of a stretch of the credibility-elastic to envisage situations where some bunches of hooey could actually be bunches of Hoo-weee!
This is fun
xxxPosted 11th June 2009 at 02:00 PM by Interference - Then let the mucking begin!
Feel free to 'quote' at your next and last dinner party so long as you don't mind getting tossed out on your ear.
I love to kid around about my messed up brain and am always looking for answers as to how I got this way. I'm not crazy (OKAY! So that's open for debate! Geez!) but I do so many things I should not be able to do compared to my fellow homo-sapiens. So...where do these abilities come from?
In studying various differences (I prefer differences to the word 'disorder') I have yet to come across anyone with these 'differences' that does not have some extraordinary talent. Many great artists and scientists from the past are now considered to have a 'difference'. Some believe Van Gogh was schizophrenic and cut off his ear not for love, but to try to stop his auditory halucinations. Einstein may have been a high functioning autistic. He was once asked why he didn't speak until he was 4 years old and he answered, "I didn't have anything to say". That is typical of some autistics - late speech development, not because they can't, but because they don't want to. They are fascinating people. I've spent a lot of time with autistics and have an autistic nephew as well. I would give a full year of my life to spend 5 minutes inside my nephew's head just to perceive life as he does.
Thomas Edison was ADHD off the scale. That's why his mother home-schooled him. He couldn't function in a structured environment like school - well, without wearing out the teachers hickory stick. When he was working in his lab, he only slept in short bursts due to his hyperactivity and his ability to hyper-focus on one thing (usually an experiment or somesuch). Then it was on to the next experiment whether the last one was finished or not. Amazing man! He never ceases to fascinate me.
Is mental skew-wiffiness in fact multi-dimensional supremeness? Sorry, but you completely lost me on this paragraph...
Mental skew-wiffiness and multi-dimensional supremeness? Is supremeness even a word? Are you paying me a compliment? I like the term 'mental skew-wiffiness' but anything involving supremeness mucks it all up for me. I may be skewed, but I am far from supreme.
The sound of your name being called is probably one of those stages of sleep called by greek letters that I can't remember at the moment...or...you're loony as a toon. Take your pick.
When I listen to music - since I can rarely understand ANY of the lyrics (something to do with my ADHD I'm told), I can hyper-focus on one instrument and follow each note given off by that particular instrument throughout the song. I don't think of it as a unique talent, but I think it may be similar to your 'bus music'. Now you have me intrigued. I'm going to try to find the music in everyday sounds.
Let's try this on for size..."But Your Honor, I was in a different state of awareness at the time of the crime thus resulting in a behavioural response at the 4th dimensional level." That's the silliest defense I've ever heard.LOL! Don't try this at home, Kiddies.
Maybe the brain can produce sounds and words without any effort on our part, but what about the other senses? Have you ever felt a caress only to turn and see that no one is there? Hmmmm? Is it a halucination or a brief moment, possibly only a few microseconds of contact with another being (possibly yourself?)in another universe? How do we explain such experiences? I certainly can't, and believe me, I have tried. There are too many things I can't explain and it frustrates me terribly!
Er...and I'll take your word for the soul Hoo-weee bit, though I agree the current definition does not explain the existence of souls adequately.
This IS fun...and torture as well. *wink*Posted 12th June 2009 at 05:16 AM by Werewoman - Ahhh, now we come to the real core of the question: Genius and Its Relationship To Multi-Dimensional Reality.
Kidding
Well, almost kidding. Science has chosen a set of answers that explains how lateral thinking works (scientific types say that the answers chose themselves, but that's just not thinking outside the box at all, is it?). Is inspiration solely a product of neurons leaping around inside your brainbox? Well, of course it is, what kind of daft question is that, anyway? The question is "What makes a Neuron Tick?" Why, when faced with a simple situation, will ten different people come up with ten different rationalisations and ten different solutions, a few of which are radically different from the others, while the bulk of them are variations of each other. (The dog drowning thread is a perfect example of what I'm talking about here.)
Experiencing 4 dimensions is normal. Accepting that we can only truly explore three is normal. Being swept along in the 4th is a perfectly normal perception. What is barely perceptible is the influence of past and future events on our present. Even the influence of parallel times is so subtle that when we notice it we dismiss it.
But past and future and parallel all are part of Time as a dimension and we travel through time. Like if you're crossing a street, the street is wide and you have a distance to cover in one direction (dimension). What happens if you deny that the other dimensions can have any bearing on your progress? You get hit by a truck. Or a piano falls on your head. The fact is, whether you think of it or not, you can not ignore what is happening in all three dimensions just because you only happen to be using one at the moment.
Same thing with the 4th. We are all crossing the big wide street called time, but time has intersections and junctions and curly bits that we aren't even aware of until a truck comes barreling out of a blind alley at us. That truck might be called Inspiration or perceived as a Voice in our Heads. Some people see the truck and admit it into their world view (acting on impulse or solving a problem) while others ignore it and close themselves off from the potential of enhanced perception.
The list of geniuses you cite could very well be among those who see the truck and deal with it. This analogy is going to come under some pressure in a minute. It includes "Where does the truck come from" and would have to get all arty when we realise that the truck could come from anywhere, including the past, the future and any parallel time, but wherever it originates, it carries information that you either choose to accept and allow to influence what you do, or you can ignore it and do things the hard way.
Information from the future/past/parallel: It isn't too fanciful if you accept that time is both concurrent and mutable. Certainly a model that includes parallel time makes this easier to imagine, and you can say that a You from a Parallel Universe is sending the You of now hints on how to live your life or be more creative or helping you to find a parking space or something.
How conscious is this transfer of information? No idea. Could be as little as a wish or as much as a prayer. Or it could be pure accident and coincidence. The result is Mad Genius ....
Right, that's "mental skew-wiffiness may be multi-dimensional supremeness" covered, with the minor correction that I should have said "awareness" rather than "supremeness" (which is a word now - is that the only word you thought I'd made up? ), but you know what it's like. I've tried to keep this readably short, so I might not be putting it across too well. There are a few subtleties I'm still trying to work out, too, so any help is appreciated.
I've been starting to open my senses. It's a gradual process and one which I hope will help me understand the Universe a bit better, but I've never had a ghost-hug and I wonder if, I'm thinking of your story earlier about your father-in-law, maybe you aren't blessed in some way by having loving companionship from somewhere just out of sight. I suppose I'm not special enough to be hugged by a trans-dimesional entity
I hope you enjoy listening to the music around you. I do.
I'm intrigued by how you say you hear music. Centring your attention on the sound of a single instrument is a valuable skill in a recording studio. Ever recorded or anything like that?
Keeping this reply short isn't working out as well as I'd hoped ....Posted 12th June 2009 at 12:00 PM by Interference
Updated 12th June 2009 at 01:04 PM by Interference - I am willing to accept science at face value, but it's too rigid to explain things like What Makes a Neuron Tick. Quarks perhaps? But then, what makes a quark tick? We could go on as long as there are particles that make up other particles...which by the way, I know nothing about, in case it's not obvious. I'll have to read the dog drowning thread later. Sounds pretty cool.
I love the 'crossing the street and truck metaphor'. If I had a dollar for every truck that came along...you know the rest. I would definitely choose the truck containing information that I allow to influence my daily life. To ignore the truck would be very messy. Did I just repeat what you already said?
Oh, and I prefer my advanced perceptions medium well, please.
Time is a concept that I understand, but the perception of it I do not. It certainly isn't linear, I get that much, and because it is not linear, it is mutable. I get that part, too. What befuddles me is the concept of time in other parallel dimensions simultaneous to the one we exist in at any given moment, i.e. the point at which you are while crossing the street. I don't see other universes or dimensions as being parallel in the sense that - what with time being mutable - having a direct influence on our dimension and/or universe. I know it can happen, like the experiment where light passes through two slits simultaneously (overly simplified example, I know) but how often? My guess is more rarely than our pea-brained brains can conceive. Could someone please tell me what I just said?
A trans-dimensional entity? I see it as a spirit in it's most basic form - like the particles that are the building blocks of everything around us, including us - and that there exists a part of us that can only be perceived under given circumstances, like physical death. Spirit is like electrons. A current source must exist for them to work. A life source must exist for spirit to work. Some people are more sensitive to the effects of electricity/spirit than others. Oh, and btw, the more sensitive ones have a lower internal resistance...
And no, I've never worked in a recording studio though I would like to, maybe as a sound mixer. I separate the instruments because it's fun and I can't play a bloody note. Playing Rock Band with my son is as close as I'll ever get.Posted 12th June 2009 at 11:40 PM by Werewoman - Anyone who says they understand it doesn't understand itQuote:Originally Posted by Werewoman
But then, what makes a quark tick? We could go on as long as there are particles that make up other particles... which by the way, I know nothing about Once we get to the level of understanding truly fundamental elements we'll still only be part of the way towards knowing what makes anything tick. The notion that I started with in the original blog is that a single pulse can be all it takes to start a chain reaction leading to matter. What I'm ignoring, to some extent, that even a pulse needs a medium to operate in. A wave needs water, a sound needs air etc. Maybe later I'll figure out the rest 
LoLQuote:Originally Posted by Werewoman Oh, and I prefer my advanced perceptions medium well, please.
I think that's because we're locked into thinking of Time as something that happens to us, rather than something we can observe. Like being in the river and not seeing the shore, or the tributaries or the sea it empties into or the spring it sprung from. Time is just another big glop of stuff, really, and it contains events, not just trees and people and detritus. It's mutable because it is a lower dimension, like the three obvious ones. We can meddle about with matter in 3 dimensions to our heart's content, but unless we reach a higher dimension ourselves we can't (yet) do anything exciting with Time except experience it, compress and expand it, accidentally slip through it and remember things that happened in it.Quote:Originally Posted by Werewoman Time is a concept that I understand, but the perception of it I do not. It certainly isn't linear, I get that much, and because it is not linear, it is mutable. I get that part, too. What befuddles me is the concept of time in other parallel dimensions simultaneous to the one we exist in at any given moment
Someone makes a phone call in, say, Hawaii. As a result of that call, two people get married. In the fullness of time, the couple has a child. That child grows up to be a nurse. That nurse helps you and your son to full recovery. So, can a phone call have a direct effect on your life? All dimensions are part of the complete Universe and we go about our lives in a very tiny part of that completeness. However, we also exist in dimensions we can't see. We are in a constant transit through Time, which we can acknowledge, but we also reach into dimensions we can't even imagine right now because the rules haven't been defined yet. We know that here and now, heat burns and cold can freeze. W sort of understand energy and how it conserves itself. But we don't know the rules that govern the existence of consciousness or emotion or sense of humour, or awareness. Such ephemeral things to us aren't even worth that kind of study. But maybe emotion is our connection through another dimension that manifests as a feeling in us, but is in fact a very tangible 5th dimensional object, made up of quarks and strings and puppy-dogs' tails. Maybe. Maybe there is a law governing that object's actions which results in us, for example, crying at a sad song or laughing at a funny joke.Quote:Originally Posted by Werewoman I don't see other universes or dimensions as being parallel in the sense ..... having a direct influence on our dimension and/or universe.
Okay, try this, then: In another version of our Universe there is a version of you who is now on a boating holiday in, say, Hawaii (I like the sound of Hawaii) You can't experience their fun and enjoyment, in fact you may instead be having a pretty rough time of it, but eventually that is going to flip over and you will enjoy a terrific holiday while your alternate self is having a minor traumatic experience. The energy of the emotions is universally balanced, though the emotions themselves swing from extreme to extreme. What connects you, apart from the fact you share this balance? Only something that transcends the dimensions themselves could possibly make that connection.
Okay, how about this: Hyperspace. Jump Gates. Star Gates. They all toy with the sme notion of near-instantaneous links between locations. I'm just extending it to a link between events contained in Time.
Once we understand how our consciousness works and what a soul is for, we'll get a clearer picture on this. I know there is a reality to our experience of ghosts (from anecdote and lore) and I know that there are various causes of them (quartz recordings replayed through sympathetic resonances etc) and it's pretty clear that there are many types of ghost/spirit, but I kinda agree - low resistance makes seeing apparitions more probably, but I prefer to think of it as a sympathestic frequency that generates the image and allows interaction. Lots to consider here and I think there are many explanations, each one tailored to the type of apparition and sometimes it's important to realise that teasing someone that looks like a man in a bear suit can get you killed by a bear.Quote:Originally Posted by Werewoman A trans-dimensional entity? I see it as a spirit in it's most basic form - like the particles that are the building blocks of everything around us, including us - and that there exists a part of us that can only be perceived under given circumstances, like physical death.
My brain is steaming .....
Thinking ... it's a mug's game, really, isn't it? : DPosted 15th June 2009 at 01:16 PM by Interference - Has anyone ever told you that you have a gift for making the simplest things extremely complicated?
Geez man! My DOG'S brain is steaming just from me reading this! Sorry, but I can never resist the urge and/or the opportunity to be obnoxious.
We seem to have different ideas of what a 'dimension' is. If I understand you correctly, each action starting with the phone call leading up to the nurse who tended my son, is a separate dimension. Each action affects the next action, and so on. If the person in Hawaii had made the phone call, say, the next day, the person they called would be unavailable because he wasn't home, but vacationing in Wyoming (I like the sound of Wyoming...Why-oh-ming - has a nice ring to it) instead. So there was never a connection between the two people who had a child, etc. BUT, a completely different scenario WOULD have occurred at the exact same moment in time, like say, a woman in Alabama (hate Alabama - smells bad) buys a yorkshire terrier from a local breeder, the breeder uses the money from the sale to buy a kayak, but flips over and drowns. Now, lets change to a different outcome (are ya ready for this?) A woman in Alabama (which still smells bad, btw...Alabama, not the woman...just thought I should clarify that for you)goes to the local SPCA and adopts a mutt and they live happily ever after. Now, the yorkshire terrier breeder doesn't have the money to buy a kayak, so she doesn't drown, keeps the dog, and lives happily ever after. OR would the woman who drowned in the kayak die some other way, say like, gets hit by a truck, at the same moment she would have drowned had she bought the kayak? OR would her lifespan change dramatically? Are you confused yet? So am I.
I see a 'dimension' as another place and time where another 'me' exists/lives, but with a completely different outcome due to her/my environment. We are born at the same time and die at the same time, possibly the same way. Of course, this is linear thinking, and complete garbage, but I prefer it because I hope that somewhere out there in another universe is another me who's life is always peaceful and safe. Mine didn't start out that way, but I've made it that way. I would like to think I exist somewhere I didn't have to go through all of that crap. Does any of this make sense?
See, you're like, all philosophical and deep and ethereal. I'm more concrete. But I love to read/listen to other peoples thoughts on the 'unknowns' because let's face it, we can speculate all we want, and measure this and that and spout theories until we are blue in the face and we still don't really know, do we? And THAT, my friend, is the wonder of it all, the process of trying to discover - and sometimes finding - what was once 'unknowns'.Posted 15th June 2009 at 10:18 PM by Werewoman - That may be my only charmQuote:Originally Posted by Werewoman Has anyone ever told you that you have a gift for making the simplest things extremely complicated? And, yeah, I have this uncanny knack for saying things that can be interpreted in almost exactly the way I didn't mean them to be interpreted. It gets me into trouble sometimes, you know. Ah, the stories I could tell you ...
That's a "many worlds" interpretation of one aspect of what I'm suggesting and makes perfect sense, of course, but I don't share your glee. There's another side to that coin that I mentioned in my original post, and it says that someone out there is living the life I might have lived and doing it much better than I am - right now. Yeah, I even get jealous of my other-selves ....Quote:Originally Posted by Werewoman I see a 'dimension' as another place and time where another 'me' exists/lives, but with a completely different outcome due to her/my environment ........ I would like to think I exist somewhere I didn't have to go through all of that crap. Does any of this make sense?
I'm taking dimensions to mean something else: literally, another direction. Time is the one we know best (apart from height, breadth and depth) because we can feel its passage and we know it had a start and will have an end, so it has a direction. Unfortunately, we can't even point in that direction.
From the fifth dimension, it will be possible to look at time as a line drawn between the beginning and end of time. From the fifth dimension, we can walk along that line and look at what's happening in any point in history, past or future.
From the sixth dimension, we can see the first four dimensions, including time's length (start to end), PLUS time's breadth, whatever that is, though it is probably the multiple life concept you've cited. So, in effect, we can choose to observe every possible outcome of every possible decision from the elevated position of the sixth dimension.
From the seventh dimension, we should be able to see all three dimensions of Time, length, breadth and height. But what height means in the context of time I can't quite speculate right now.
I'm only using the words "height, breadth and length" because the terms are second nature to us who deal in normal three dimensional space. In reality, there is unlikely to be height or breadth involved in the same way as we observe them around us.
Hmmm. Work distraction. What was I talking about? (Yes, that's both of us wondering that, now)
Until we can imagine the sixth and seventh dimensions quite clearly, the eighth and up will just be foggy concepts. But once having understood the 8th, everything from the seventh down will be easy. Once we figure out the 9th, everything from 8 down will be simplified and so on up the dimensional tree.
The only thing I am definitely clear about is that life there isn't the same as anything we experience here. I have a suspicion that the higher dimensions contain aspects of our lives that are to us ephemeral (like emotion and intellect and love and romance and hate and Celebrity Love Island) and can help us to understand inter-personal connections that can be immensely strong (love or hate) as well as to understand how Universal energies can be observed in anything from our health to experiences of telekenesis or telepathy. And ghosts.
In short -- hmmm ... I don't like short, but I'll try -- all dimensions are directions, all but three of which we can't yet look in. Looking in those other directions will show us aspects of ourselves and each other that will finally explain everything about our lives and our experiences and our histories and our theologies and our beliefs and - well, pretty much everything, including why Tucson isn't pronounced anything like it's spelt.
I'm still not sure I'm explaining myself clearly enough, and there's plenty of evidence to show that it's my own fault for being basically a woolly-headed creative type trying to dip his toes into the domain of the Almighty Scientific Pragmatist, but it's a risk I'm willing to takePosted 16th June 2009 at 04:59 PM by Interference - You have that problem, too? How about the stories I could tell you.Quote:Originally Posted by Interference That may be my only charm And, yeah, I have this uncanny knack for saying things that can be interpreted in almost exactly the way I didn't mean them to be interpreted. It gets me into trouble sometimes, you know. Ah, the stories I could tell you ...
Glee. *giggle* interesting choice of word.Quote:Originally Posted by Interference but I don't share your glee.
Like, I can remember anything in your original post? I'm old, too, remember?Quote:Originally Posted by Interference There's another side to that coin that I mentioned in my original post, and it says that someone out there is living the life I might have lived and doing it much better than I am - right now. Yeah, I even get jealous of my other-selves ....
Celebrity Love Island? I don't even want to know...Quote:Originally Posted by Interference The only thing I am definitely clear about is that life there isn't the same as anything we experience here. I have a suspicion that the higher dimensions contain aspects of our lives that are to us ephemeral (like emotion and intellect and love and romance and hate and Celebrity Love Island) and can help us to understand inter-personal connections that can be immensely strong (love or hate) as well as to understand how Universal energies can be observed in anything from our health to experiences of telekenesis or telepathy. And ghosts.
And assuming I will some day achieve the higher dimensions of which you speak, does that mean I will finally be able to understand why this man sitting next to me is my soulmate? Cuz there are days when I want to trade him in for a newer model. *big silly grin*
I don't like short either...I like big and beefy...and that's all I'm going to say on the matter, so behave!Quote:Originally Posted by Interference In short -- hmmm ... I don't like short, but I'll try -- all dimensions are directions, all but three of which we can't yet look in. Looking in those other directions will show us aspects of ourselves and each other that will finally explain everything about our lives and our experiences and our histories and our theologies and our beliefs and - well, pretty much everything, including why Tucson isn't pronounced anything like it's spelt.
Tucson? How about Ark-can-saw? Spelt Arkansas. It should be pronounced Ar-can-suhs. I think it was named after some religious dude named Ark who learned how to saw real good. We could do this for days, maybe even months, coming up with words that are not pronounced the way they are spelt.
You explain yourself very well, it's me being the basically wooly-headed type without the creativity, not you!Quote:Originally Posted by Interference I'm still not sure I'm explaining myself clearly enough, and there's plenty of evidence to show that it's my own fault for being basically a woolly-headed creative type trying to dip his toes into the domain of the Almighty Scientific Pragmatist, but it's a risk I'm willing to takePosted 16th June 2009 at 09:57 PM by Werewoman - To be honest, I didn't remember I'd said it, either, but then I don't remember writing any of it in the first placeQuote:Originally Posted by Werewoman Like, I can remember anything in your original post? I'm old, too, remember?
If I could cut out the part of my brain where the knowledge of it, Big Brother and that jungle thing reside, believe me I would.Quote:Originally Posted by Werewoman Celebrity Love Island? I don't even want to know...
Ah, I have a theory about that -- you knew I was going to say that, didn't you?Quote:Originally Posted by Werewoman And assuming I will some day achieve the higher dimensions of which you speak, does that mean I will finally be able to understand why this man sitting next to me is my soulmate? Cuz there are days when I want to trade him in for a newer model. *big silly grin*
Now I think of it, short's not so bad. Hmmmm. Neither is tall. Mmmmmmm. I guess I'm basically easy to please. At my age, who isn't?Quote:Originally Posted by Werewoman I don't like short either...I like big and beefy...and that's all I'm going to say on the matter, so behave!
If you start it, I'll play itQuote:Originally Posted by Werewoman Tucson? How about Ark-can-saw? Spelt Arkansas. It should be pronounced Ar-can-suhs. I think it was named after some religious dude named Ark who learned how to saw real good. We could do this for days, maybe even months, coming up with words that are not pronounced the way they are spelt. Poughkeepsie? How does anyone even begin to pronounce that??
You have been a stalwart companion in this exploration and I feel quite (patonising alert) honoured that you felt it important enough and (patronising alert) challenging enough to take part. (Sincerity alert) Thank you.Quote:Originally Posted by Werewoman You explain yourself very well, it's me being the basically wooly-headed type without the creativity, not you!Posted 17th June 2009 at 06:43 PM by Interference - You're welcome.Posted 18th June 2009 at 05:08 AM by Werewoman
