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Old 27th November 2007, 04:53 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Re: Question on Gandalf

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Originally Posted by Balinor View Post
It's been a long time since I read them...but wasn't the secret fire a referance to the elven ring he had that protected him from fire etc?

more an indicater he was a servant of the gods.

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Therefore Ilúvatar gave to their vision Being, and set it amid the Void, and the Secret Fire was sent to burn at the heart of the World; and it was called Ea
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"He [Melkor] had gone often alone into the void places seeking the Imperishable Flame; for desire grew hot within him to bring into Being things of his own, and it seemed to him that Iluvatar took no thought for the Void, and he was impatient of its emptiness. Yet he found not the Fire, for it is with Iluvatar."
Silmarillion

In his Letters, Tolkien once states that this very fire is the holy spirit, and that Gandalf is a servant of it.


Anor is the sun, and so literally the 'flame of Anor' would be the light of the sun, which originated in the fiery fruit of Laurelin, one of the Two trees of Valinor. Gandalf seems to be referring, then, to the power he gains as a servant of the Lords of the West, in defiance to the corrupted darkness of the Balrog. And ofc the ring, Narya is not of the gods but elven made, so one could assume that he is not referrring to that.

However I don't think it has ever been stated 100% either way, so it's all a matter of your interpretation.
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