The Valonqar

[Mesanna]

Originally Posted by C Of K

Jaime actually has become a more contemplative individual as of late. He hasn't plotted Cersei's death, true enough, but he has contemplated taking Tommen away from her. I imagine if he ever did try anything along those lines, it wouldn't go over too well with her. But her sleeping around has definitely been a part of what is causing him to turn against her.

Oh I agree completely that her cheating has definitely caused him to look at her in a new light and reassess their relationship. I just think Jaime is becoming more distant and colder toward her, rather than being inflamed with the jealous rage that would be needed for a crime passionel. The Jaime of GoT, if he discovered her cheating, would have killed her lover instantly (I don't think he would have killed her, but it may depend on the circumstances). But the Jaime of AFfC definitely has cooled his feelings considerably.

It will be interesting to see how their story plays out. I can easily see new sensitive Jaime wanting to be more of a father/uncle to Tommen after seeing how Cersei ruined Joffrey and that might be developed in future books. Cersei would be seriously unhappy at losing control over King Tommen. There are definitely fireworks ahead for those two and I can't wait to see what happens!

[C Of K]

Yeah, same here. Whatever does happen, I do hope Tommen lives through this. The kid is almost too goodhearted to live in Westeros, especially as a king, which has me worried. If push comes to shove, there really is no one to protect him.

[Eulalia]

Perhaps someone will tell Cersei (paranoia or what) that to save Myrcella and Tommen, and prevent the fullfillment of the prophecy, she can off herself. Having another child would upset the applecart, too. Niether of those seem likely, so I don't imagine that little Tommen is going to make it.

[Mesanna]

Yeah you can't help but feel for Tommen. He is too sweet for words. Prophecies often never quite turn out the way you expect though, and given GRRM's devious twisty-turny mind, maybe there's hope.

[Boaz]

Originally Posted by C Of K

Yeah, same here. Whatever does happen, I do hope Tommen lives through this. The kid is almost too goodhearted to live in Westeros, especially as a king, which has me worried. If push comes to shove, there really is no one to protect him.

Well, as Lord Commander, Jaime will be there. But then again if push comes to shove... better not to have Jaime there.

[NightStalker]

Originally Posted by Mesanna

Cersei would be seriously unhappy at losing control over King Tommen.

Perhaps Uncle Kev could step in here? He did offer and he might be better at treating Tommen as king instead of using him as a means to be king(well, queen in Cersei's case)
I can't help but feel sorry for Tommen, because since Cersei is his mother and he is king, some difficult decisions may arise..

[Boaz]

Is it my delivery? Do I need to spell it out? Am I not funny at all? I know child defenestration is not funny.

So there's Tommen, unprotected, in his tower... Just like Bran... But Jaime will be standing right next to Tommen.

Originally Posted by Boaz

Well, as Lord Commander, Jaime will be there. But then again if push comes to shove... better not to have Jaime there.

Nothing? Ah, well. I must concede to Ursa Major as having the keenest with among us.

[Eulalia]

I confess that I didn't get it, Boaz!

Not everyone likes my jokes either...I guess that is a risk on message boards. Nobody can hear your tone of voice or see your facial expression, which I suppose aids me a lot in "real" life. We need icons for a slightly raised eyebrow, a minor pause, an extra dry tone, or an out and out goofy face. Is there a smiley for "pun to follow"?

I do such good mimicry too. Sigh. All lost...sob.

Ursa is ursinacious.

[C Of K]

You never know, Tommen might decide to go easy on Jaime.

[Ursa major]

I laughed when I read your allusion, Boaz. (I was even tempted to add to it by referencing someone of clouded parentage from The Vale and suggesting that Jaime might drop them like a stone, but couldn't think of anyone suitable at the time (or since)....)




As well as, or instead of, occasionally using smilies (particularly the , to point out wordplay, but sometimes the , to point out other playfulness**), I sometimes add an ellipsis to the full stop (=period) to suggest I'm not being entirely serious (as above).

(I won't risk basking in being called ursinacious as I - and I suspect everyone save for Eulalia - have not the foggiest idea of what it means. But I hope it's good. )



** - Though don't look for consistency in my use of smilies.

[Eulalia]

ursinacious--possessing the qualities of Ursa ()

It's beary good, don't you think! (eye roll)

Thanks for smiley tutorial ()

[The Imp]

Ursa, dropped like a stone, which I'm guessing means dropped like a Stone, is very clever

[Ursa major]

Although the inability to put a name to create the joke does show up my patchy memory of the books in some (if not all) regards. Given the possible imminence of ADWD, I really think I need to start my re-read soon.

[Alexisonfire]

What do we know about Jon Snows Mother? What If he is The younger bro?

[The Imp]

Hello to you as well and welcome to the forum

You could start here. There are at least 3 threads linked there by No One that will gives you tons of info.

Jon Snow ideas

Everyone knows that Bran is the younger brother that Maggie The Frog sees in her prophecy