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Old 21st September 2007, 10:04 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Jedi / Sith / The Force

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I’ve recently read all the SW books
OK tell me where you got them all.

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Jedi – Luke rebuilt the order, and has found several holicrons to help him over the years… strangely Ben and Yoda disappear from the book after episode 6 so Luke’s pretty much on his own now.
Yoda doesn't give much guidance to Luke after he dies so I can understand him disappearing. In one of the ones I read (forget which one) Ben says to Luke that he will not be able to help him much longer and Luke will be on his own.

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Sith – so many times there’s comments in the books that Sidious and Vader were “perversions” of true Sith. That true Sith aren’t petty or selfish but desire order above all things. The main point in the Sith history though is that each master takes on an apprentice and sooner or later that apprentice will attempt to kill the master. This seems totally insane as an “ordered” society goes. Sure you weed out the week people but ultimately when you’re a Sith master your always training up the person who will kill you – yes this plays into the whole “Sacrifice” part of the Sith teaching but usually this sacrifice is not of themselves but of somebody else. What I’m inelegantly saying is that this is a self defeating society – sooner or later it will collapse in on itself due to the fact that some bright sparks going to realise that all they have to do is keep learning the dark side and kill all the other Sith to basically become the all powerful dark master.
The Sith were actually a race of force powerful beings. They died out or something and then when Jedi turned evil the best started taking on the name Sith.

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For me this has always been a problem. The way I think of the Darkside is passion and strong emotion – so when your in a blazing fury and rage for sure you’re a hell of a lot stronger than other people but that fury is unfocused – it makes to think less and more vulnerable to people who aren’t in that rage – if a level headed person simply avoids the crushing attacks they could win – but only if they keep avoiding the attacks. So Jedi are “weaker” than dark side users simply because there focused and always in control of their actions, whether this is or weakness I’d love peoples thoughts on it – indeed if people even consider the dark side in the same way I do.
OK so you want my thoughts. Good. I would say Jedi would be more powerful because they are restraining themselves from using the full power that they can use whereas the Sith or fallen Jedi don't care and use all they have. It makes me think that if a Jedi was pressed he could come up with a yet unknown amount of power.

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So Since we know Luke was both light and dark wouldn’t it have made sense for him to scrap the “old” Jedi ways and teach both light and dark techniques but also have “moral” training as well to teach new Jedi how to switch From dark force and light force as and when the situation arises, after all picking somebody up with the force and picking somebody up by the force with their throat is the exact same power – just applied in a different way – its not good or evil – just its application – so technically speaking why cannot Light side jedi learn force lightning? This way we simply have a "force" order neither good or evil - but balanced. send out the dark side profficient beserkers into battle , have them commanded by lightsiders who can do the tactics - Universe in order
I can see your point in this. The reason there is the Jedi and the Sith is so that it is balanced so why not make everyone balanced. I'll tell you why it isn't like this in two words. George Lucas.
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