[the_faery_queen]

not power in that sense. im talking about power at home. relationship power. the men have ALL the power in relationships, these 'strong' women instantly cave, let the men spank them for heavens sake (which is ridiculous. NO man who loves a woman would punish her for disobeying him! he would respect her as an equal) but as many of the men don't seem to respect their partners as equals at home, how on earth can they respect them as equals, or even, dominates, in the political world? if the man can boss his wife around, tell her what to do, make him obey her at home, then she has no real power outside either

if she was equal to him at home, then yes, i would say she had some sort of power. but all i see are the women caving into the men, letting them do what they want, trying to please them, becoming submissive. and that makes the power they have outside of the bedroom somewhat of an illision. amyrilin seat, the old one, full of her power, her position, lets herself get dominated and oubished by the man she loves. why he would want to do that if he loved her (same with perrin and faille) shows me that they dont' really see women as equals. if they did, they wouldn't do that! they wouldn't think of doing that. and ok that's just two guys, but it's something i get the feel of from most of the men, that they would stop their women doing things they didn't like, punish them perhaps, it says to me they don't respect their women as individuals. it doesn't seem to be about trying to protect them, but control them. and that says the women don't have any real power

and yeah, i think the same of the men. i don't like any of them.