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orionsixwings · 1st February 2006, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxtale

<_< The ending is so sad though.

Anyways, I like the idea of demons like how they've done it.

Lol! you sound like Will --- its dæmons, and yes, I love that concept too. I would love to have a real dæmons of my own, will name him Ryjel or Euridicae, and it will be a Bengal Tiger once it's settled, but right now it shifts from black kitten, to Siberian Hamster, to White Tabby, to Bengal Tiger, and its largest form so far is a Stallion.

Green Knight · 28th February 2006, 03:45 PM

May as well continue the thread from elsewhere about what questions are posed by this epic.

Where to begin?

Pullman himself has gone on record saying that he didn’t set out to write a fantasy book as such (*cough* yeah right) but that he set out to address a particular issue in a new way. The central theme, as far as I can make out, is the journey from Innocence to Experience. Sort of ‘coming of age’ only not quite so simple. He took the concepts of Innocence and Experience from William Blake, and seems to go with the notion that there are good and bad elements to both.

Pullman definitely goes against expectation by strongly implying that childhood is NOT an ideal, idyllic state, but very definitely lacking something important, which growing up gives us. The difficult thing is not to lose the qualities of childhood when one attains the extra gifts of maturity.

I will stop waffling at this point and let someone else have a go… Pullman is exhilarating to read, but exhausting to try and analyse. :-)

orionsixwings · 28th February 2006, 11:37 PM

Another note relating to childhood -- it was interesting that Lyra found her childhood with Roger and lost it with Will. Had they met in different circumstances would the outcome be the same?

orionsixwings · 23rd March 2006, 12:18 AM

I've got a question about this book series.

IT deals with DUST, and other worlds, and stuff, but, is it considered MAGIC? The way Lyra's DUST moves the Aleithiometer, the way Will's Dust helps him use the Subtle Knife, and the way the Intention Craft is used --- Can it be considered Magic?

28th February 2006, 03:45 PM	#17 (permalink)
Green Knight He hath an axe to grynde Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 53	"Questions posed" by His Dark Materials Trilogy May as well continue the thread from elsewhere about what questions are posed by this epic. Where to begin? Pullman himself has gone on record saying that he didn’t set out to write a fantasy book as such (cough yeah right) but that he set out to address a particular issue in a new way. The central theme, as far as I can make out, is the journey from Innocence to Experience. Sort of ‘coming of age’ only not quite so simple. He took the concepts of Innocence and Experience from William Blake, and seems to go with the notion that there are good and bad elements to both. Pullman definitely goes against expectation by strongly implying that childhood is NOT an ideal, idyllic state, but very definitely lacking something important, which growing up gives us. The difficult thing is not to lose the qualities of childhood when one attains the extra gifts of maturity. I will stop waffling at this point and let someone else have a go… Pullman is exhilarating to read, but exhausting to try and analyse. :-)

28th February 2006, 11:37 PM	#18 (permalink)
orionsixwings Demosthenes Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 280	Re: Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials Trilogy Another note relating to childhood -- it was interesting that Lyra found her childhood with Roger and lost it with Will. Had they met in different circumstances would the outcome be the same?

23rd March 2006, 12:18 AM	#19 (permalink)
orionsixwings Demosthenes Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 280	Re: Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials Trilogy I've got a question about this book series. IT deals with DUST, and other worlds, and stuff, but, is it considered MAGIC? The way Lyra's DUST moves the Aleithiometer, the way Will's Dust helps him use the Subtle Knife, and the way the Intention Craft is used --- Can it be considered Magic?

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