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pyan · 22nd February 2008, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sire Of Dragons

Proudly Standing Guilty As Charged

What, of loving the movies? Case dismissed...

I agree that it was as close that we're ever going to get to a definitive movie-from-a-great-fantasy-work, but I think that the most frustrating thing is that it could have been almost perfect, but was let down by a few things that could have been so easily fixed....

Sire Of Dragons · 22nd February 2008, 07:20 AM

I wasn't talking about the movie.

Marky Lazer · 22nd February 2008, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pyan

What, of loving the movies? Case dismissed...

I agree that it was as close that we're ever going to get to a definitive movie-from-a-great-fantasy-work, but I think that the most frustrating thing is that it could have been almost perfect, but was let down by a few things that could have been so easily fixed....

What did you want to see changed, old green one?

paranoid marvin · 22nd February 2008, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Marky Lazer

What did you want to see changed, old green one?

Well , I for one would have liked to have seen the proper ending with the final encounter with Sharkey

Majimaune · 23rd February 2008, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Marky Lazer

Really? I can't really see how he could have made it any better.

As Sarakoth said, use better actors. Stay to the book a bit more instead of wandering around it and using it as a guideline. Especially the second book/film.

Strife · 23rd February 2008, 12:17 AM

but a film is a director's interpretation of a book.

it shouldn't be the same...

I know. It's an old debate...

Majimaune · 23rd February 2008, 12:20 AM

Yes it is an old debate. I am part of The Tolkien Forum. Been through it plenty.

paranoid marvin · 23rd February 2008, 01:46 AM

The book was written as a novel and not a filmscript , therefore it is wrong to think it can be directly replicated in film

ghost8772 · 23rd February 2008, 07:22 AM

Except for the ending, it was followed fairly closely, some compression, some conversations moved around, a character deleted but replaced with an equivalent, but mostly followed the book in scenes. only movie in a LONG time that closely followed the book it was based off of. would have liked to see the souring of the shire as part of it though.

Marky Lazer · 23rd February 2008, 11:26 AM

I think PJ (together with Walsh) did a great job. Also, everyone thinks Wood is a Frodo mutilator or whatever, I don't agree. I think he pulled it off quite nicely. I can't really see which actor needed to be replaced.

devilsgrin · 24th February 2008, 07:05 AM

only Viggo! he should not have been the last minute call-up for Aragorn. They could easily have delayed filming his scenes, considering how long they were filming for, until they found a competent actor.
Viggo has definitely gotten A LOT better as an actor since, but back then (7 years or so ago) he was rather lack-lustre.

pyan · 24th February 2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by devilsgrin

Viggo has definitely gotten A LOT better as an actor since, but back then (7 years or so ago) he was rather lack-lustre.

And, I've always thought, too young to play Aragorn.

paranoid marvin · 24th February 2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pyan

And, I've always thought, too young to play Aragorn.

yeah , they should have used Harrison Ford!

paranoid marvin · 24th February 2008, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by devilsgrin

only Viggo! he should not have been the last minute call-up for Aragorn. They could easily have delayed filming his scenes, considering how long they were filming for, until they found a competent actor.
Viggo has definitely gotten A LOT better as an actor since, but back then (7 years or so ago) he was rather lack-lustre.

Aragorn was quite a withdrawn character in the books for the majority of the time ,so I guess he acted accordingly

pyan · 24th February 2008, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by paranoid marvin

yeah , they should have used Harrison Ford!

Heh..maybe just a little the other way....

22nd February 2008, 07:20 AM	#32 (permalink)
Sire Of Dragons Gods Dragon Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New York Posts: 168	Re: 300 vs 10,000 I wasn't talking about the movie.

23rd February 2008, 12:17 AM	#36 (permalink)
Strife Riding Fenrir Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Monaco Posts: 122	Re: 300 vs 10,000 but a film is a director's interpretation of a book. it shouldn't be the same... I know. It's an old debate...

23rd February 2008, 12:20 AM	#37 (permalink)
Majimaune Photo Time! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Australia, New South Wales Posts: 1,876	Re: 300 vs 10,000 Yes it is an old debate. I am part of The Tolkien Forum. Been through it plenty.

23rd February 2008, 01:46 AM	#38 (permalink)
paranoid marvin Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lancashire Posts: 190	Re: 300 vs 10,000 The book was written as a novel and not a filmscript , therefore it is wrong to think it can be directly replicated in film

23rd February 2008, 07:22 AM	#39 (permalink)
ghost8772 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 154	Re: 300 vs 10,000 Except for the ending, it was followed fairly closely, some compression, some conversations moved around, a character deleted but replaced with an equivalent, but mostly followed the book in scenes. only movie in a LONG time that closely followed the book it was based off of. would have liked to see the souring of the shire as part of it though.

23rd February 2008, 11:26 AM	#40 (permalink)
Marky Lazer Plastic Paddy Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,668	Re: 300 vs 10,000 I think PJ (together with Walsh) did a great job. Also, everyone thinks Wood is a Frodo mutilator or whatever, I don't agree. I think he pulled it off quite nicely. I can't really see which actor needed to be replaced.

24th February 2008, 07:05 AM	#41 (permalink)
devilsgrin Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 350	Re: 300 vs 10,000 only Viggo! he should not have been the last minute call-up for Aragorn. They could easily have delayed filming his scenes, considering how long they were filming for, until they found a competent actor. Viggo has definitely gotten A LOT better as an actor since, but back then (7 years or so ago) he was rather lack-lustre.

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