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Old 2nd November 2003, 12:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Arrow Single-minded Terry Goodkind

I don't know whether Terry Goodkind simply lacks charisma, is overly arrogant, or simply has admirably single-mindedness.

Everytime I see one of his interviews, he seems to attempt to insult his fan-base, and those outside of it, without seemingly trying.

Anyway, here's some interesting links, and I'll add some classic quotes after:

http://cgi1.usatoday.com/mchat/20030805003/tscript.htm

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Orem Utah: What do you think distinguishes your books from all of the other fantasy books out there, and why should readers choose to read your series?

Terry Goodkind: There are several things. First of all, I don't write fantasy. I write stories that have important human themes. They have elements of romance, history, adventure, mystery and philosophy. Most fantasy is one-dimensional. It's either about magic or a world-building. I don't do either.

And in most fantasy magic is a mystical element. In my books fantasy is a metaphysical reality that behaves according to its own laws of identity.

Because most fantasy is about world-building and magic, a lot of it is plotless and has no story. My primary interest is in telling stories that are fun to read and make people think. That puts my books in a genre all their own.

So I guess readers who are interested in story rather than world-building and details of magic would have a good time reading my books.
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Haddonfield, NJ: Second Question - I've noticed similarities between your Sword of Truth series and Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series...(Black Sisterhood vs. Black Ajah; The Order vs. The Seanchan; Richard vs. Rand both discovering their powers, both have Nameless evil Gods...etc.) I've often voiced my suspicion that these two series might be occurring on the same world...how crazy am I?

Terry Goodkind: If you notice a similarity, then you probably aren't old enough to read my books.
Taken from a chat transcript on the goodkind site:

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Question: Lately I've found myself in many arguments defending your books against 'fans' who say they used to like your books but no longer do to the extent that they used to. Would you mind settling some debates by answering the Question: What, if anything do you have to say to the people that voice the opinion that you're latest four books haven't been as good as the previous four and call them "too preachy"?

Answer: Don't be fooled. The assertion made by these detractors is a note wrapped around a brick thrown through the window. These people are not fans. There are hundreds if not thousands of fantasy books that fulfill their professed taste in books. Why would they continue to read books they claim are bad? Because they hate that my novels exists. Values arouse hatred in these people. Their goal is not to enjoy life, but to destroy that which is good -much like a school child who does not wish to study for a test and instead beats up a classmate who does well. These people hate what is good because it is good. Their lives are limited to loathing and indifference. It isn't that they want to read a good book, what they want is to make sure that you do not. Ignore them.
Perhaps quoting out of context isn't fair - he seems to hold himself up better for argument's sake in this interview:

http://www.scifidimensions.com/Aug03/terrygoodkind.htm

Anyway - anyone wish to give comment on the man and his work? I've never actually read anything by him - but he certainly seems to be an interesting character. Or is he just a narrow-minded and arrogant?

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Old 2nd November 2003, 07:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I've never read any of Goodkind's books, either. Based on these excerpts and the full interview you linked, I think he has sort of an inflated sense of his own importance. He sounds, in one of the excerpts, like he is embarassed to be considered a "genre" writer, as if that is a bad thing to be. I do think his affection for Ayn Rand explains a lot of his attitude. I haven't read much of her work but that which I am familiar with, along with the people I know who admire her, make me tend to think that she promotes a philosophy of arrogant self-interest - sort of an idea that Goodkind seemed to express in the full interview, that he is smarter than everyone else, that other people are "stupid" (as he said) while he has most if not all of the answers to what it right and what is wrong. Must be nice to be so certain of everything.
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Old 3rd November 2003, 11:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It is just my luck that I have read the whole serie of The Sword of Truth before reading the various answers and interviews of Terry Goodkind. He just seems to think that people who don't love him the way he is are beneath him (how awfully pretentious). Anyway, his books are good, but now that I got a glimpse of how he thinks of himself and the rest of the world I will think twice before reading another of his books. How can a writer write good books when he/she him/herself is a narcissic person, just like Goodkind? Don't be scared by his real personality and it shouldn't be an obstacle to read his books.
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Old 3rd November 2003, 06:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Actually, to be honest, if we knew the personalities of a great many "succesful" people - whether writers, musicans, actors, etc - then we'd never care a jot for our favourites in the first place!
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Old 3rd November 2003, 06:36 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Actually, to be honest, if we knew the personalities of a great many "succesful" people - whether writers, musicans, actors, etc - then we'd never care a jot for our favourites in the first place!
Exactly why I don't care to meet people whose work I admire. Although, I have to admit that most of those I have met have been quite pleasant to me and came off as being genuine as opposed to "putting on a public face". Orson Scott Card, for example, was quite nice and took the time to speak to me for more than just a second even though there were a lot of people in line behind me at the book signing at LosCon a couple of years ago. The same with Robert Bakker (the dinosaur expert), who was very sweet when I met him at a speaking engagement at our local museum a few years ago. And David Crosby (Crosby, Stills, and Nash), despite having quite a reputation for being abrupt, was wonderful when I met him before a concert a while back.
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Old 5th November 2003, 05:08 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I've never heard of this person but you folk have already put me off him. The thought of purchasing anything by this pompous windbag and therefore contributing to his earnings fills me with horror!
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I've never heard of this person but you folk have already put me off him. The thought of purchasing anything by this pompous windbag and therefore contributing to his earnings fills me with horror!
Yes, I'm forced to agree that Goodkind sounds like he has a screw loose, if you judge from the extract of an interview above. But, as Brian said I think it's better to read the entire interview before making any harsh statements.

Anyway, in my opinion an extract of an author interview shouldn't keep you from reading terific books, which I really enjoyed and still will enjoy, even if the author is a woolhead...
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Old 29th November 2003, 04:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Quite true - and, to be honest, even if I disagree with him, I do like his forthrightedness.
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Re: Single-minded Terry Goodkind

As repugnant as he sounds in those interviews, I still want to read his novels. Many people have told me they are very good - for certain reasons: being dark, pessemistic, and descriptive.

I think he is dyslexic too - gotta give him some credit.
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Old 4th January 2004, 09:12 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Single-minded Terry Goodkind

I"ve been thinking about it. I think I might be more inclined to pick up one of Goodkind's novels having read the interview with him, just to see what kind of book an indivudal that comes across the way he does might write. In fact, I've been kind of looking at the library for something of his. Haven't come across anything yet, though.
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Re: Single-minded Terry Goodkind

The first book of the Sword of Truth series is called Wizard's First Rule
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Old 5th January 2004, 06:01 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Single-minded Terry Goodkind

The first two books of the series are fairly good fantasy adventure fare. After that the quality goes down, IMHO. The writing itself is clearly beginner's stuff in the first volume. It does become more assured later on.
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Old 5th January 2004, 01:54 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Single-minded Terry Goodkind

I've read the whole series (all that is out so far, of course) and I've enjoyed it. One of the most interesting things is the power of the Mother Confessor - something so awesome that the wielder is afraid/horrified to use it. I wouldn't say it was dark and depressing though. There are quite a few points where this may be evident but I don't think it is all-pervasive. Quite a few sub-stories detail how corrupting power can become, even for ordinary people who's perceptions of power change when it becomes theirs. I found these to be an interesting view of how people can do things that they would ordinarily find absolutely horrible. Kind of another way to look at how things like the Holocaust can happen.
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Re: Single-minded Terry Goodkind

I picked up WFR at the library a couple of days ago. I don't have time to read it now, but I just wanted to look through it. I found it interesting that he uses regular English names like Richard, George, etc. and that the dialogue is also in plain English.
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Old 18th January 2004, 11:40 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: Single-minded Terry Goodkind

Wizard's First Rule is an awesome book. I'm almost done with the second book in the series now, the Stone of Tears, which is also very very good. It doesn't matter what your opinion of Goodkind is, because when you're reading his books, you'll be deep into the world he has created. (even though he says he doesn't create worlds) Wizard's First Rule is one of my favorite books I've read so far. I still have a ton of reading to do, but I will always love that book.
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