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Originally Posted by Stormflame Wonder if the Americas had never been stumbled upon. It is a logical thought that Europe and that area would be over filled with people. Imagine the mess.
On another hand, if the same thoughts and intellect had not entered into the Americas from the European area, imagine how different the inventions and innovations would have been had the indians, aztecs, and mayas and the rest, would have been allowed to grow on their own. Their expertize could be far ahead of our own today, or waaayyy behind.
The population of the Americas would be souly pure native blood and probably full like now, or perhaps, empty and desolate had their races died away. Imagining the outcomes are endless.... |
I already mentioned it above. Imagine aztecs discovering Europe instead of otherise. These great indian civilisations were in some areas far ahead of Europeans, but where they were behind is metallurgy. They never discovered iron working so they appeared defenceless when faced the iron-clad cuttthroats lead by Hernando Cortez and Francisco Pissarro riding terrible horses. But I am in terror when try to imagine bloodthirsty Aztecs mastering iron when they will try to invade Europe.
Taking suppostition that Indians learned iron working, it becomes an extremely interesting topic because in that case we may whitness the rise of at least three great Empires in both Americas: Anahuak - the Aztec Empire whose borders come up to Rio Grande or even farter north, and in the south they stretch to Panama; The Great Union of Iroquis initially having republican rule but probably by the 19th century transforming into Empire. Its territory stretches far to all sides of Canada, down to Virginian "brothers" Cherokee or even farther south to the swapms of Florida. The Delavers are assimilated. Proud Hurons have been forced into the Union. The Missisipi is the natural border of the above Empire. Farther west there are barbarians, Dakota, Shawnee, Apache, and Aztec-fed Camanche and Navaho who bring trouble to south-western border of the Great Iroquis Union. I think that Iroquis might have become the leading force of the American civilisations and had all chances to be much more friendly to Europeans than all other American Empires.
And, finally, Tihuantisuyu, the Land of Four Corners of the World, the Empire of Inkas. This Empire carries out Isolationistic policy, and expands to Mid Chile where borders on the Kingdom of Araukans. The Inkas have finally started using wheel due to side trade with the rest of the world, and their highways in Ands work extremely efficient. The Great Inka Pachakuti Yupanki IV (
) rules all the lands around Titikaka and down the selvas of the Amazon, and up to Venezuela and Surinam.
What is with Maya? Sorry, seems they are completely destroyed by Aztecs and the hearts of their leaders burned long ago on top of the teokalli (sp?) of Uiztilopochtli (sp?) and Teskatlepoka (sp?).
Your ideas, suggestions to continue or to argue all above?