[woodsman]

hey everyone,
Um after Magician and before the Sethanon debacle Tomas would defeat Pug, as Ashen-Shugar he was counted the most powerful Valheru and Macros in his prime states 'there is no single being save the gods who could oppose him [ a Valheru]; except myself of course, but even at my full powers i could only survive... not vanquish them' Macros was more powerful than Pug by far.
Since Sethanon probably Pug.