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7th January 2006, 03:11 PM
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| kung fu, i knows it  Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Australia, Queensland
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| Re: Do you know anything about ships? Looks like a sailing ship, to me. Sorry, couldn't resist. Actually, something I'm starting off on at the moment is going to focus heavily around ships, so I'd be keen if anyone could post some good links or point me towards some books that discuss ships and sailing, and have an nice, easy beginner's feel about them. |
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7th January 2006, 03:17 PM
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| 70% water...  Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Derbyshire
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| Re: Do you know anything about ships? lol - Cul beat me to it. But... its not a ... yeah, long list of what he thinks he knows about ship types. I dont know Marky. Havent you tried a NET search through ship types, yet? Its a gorgous looking vessel, whatever it may be... |
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7th January 2006, 03:28 PM
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| kung fu, i knows it Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Australia, Queensland
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| Re: Do you know anything about ships? Well, Wikipedia has a brief article, but judging by your pic you've already been there and discovered that it does not, helpfully, list the type of ship the Batavia was. If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say it was a clipper. Why? Well, that's the only ship type that comes to mind.... |
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7th January 2006, 08:47 PM
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| Ink-stained Wretch  Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: California
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| Re: Do you know anything about ships? Leafing through some books, that picture looks a lot like any number of unnamed war ships and trading ships from the late 16th - early 17th century. It also looks quite a bit like some period line-drawings of ships identified as galleons. I can safely say that it is not a schooner or a clipper with that high castle at the back. My own reference books (because I picked them up cheap at Half-Price books, and because they have lots of pictures and give the names of many sorts of ships, and explain some things in relatively simple terms, and not that they're necessarily the best books out there -- because how would I know?) are: The Book of Old Ships: From Egyptian Galleys to Clipper Ships by Henry Culver (it's a Dover paperback, so probably easy to find) Cogs, Caravels, and Galleons: The Sailing Ship 1000-1650 (which is part of a series called "Conways History of the Ship"), Robert Gardiner, editor The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Ships, Boats, Vessels, and Other Water-borne Craft, written and illustrated by Graham Blackburn More than this I cannot say, so I hope it's of some use. |
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7th January 2006, 09:36 PM
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| Ink-stained Wretch Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: California
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| Re: Do you know anything about ships? It's not rigged the same way as a schooner and the whole shape of the hull is different. Your wife has probably been led astray by cover artists, a thing that could happen to anyone. Which is a subject I can speak to from personal experience. The ship in my own book is a caravel -- I said so many times -- but the artist, no doubt for aesthetic reasons, painted a gorgeous and much more elaborate ship from a later period instead. (Not that I'm complaining. It's a beautiful picture. <------- See my avatar to the left.) |
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8th January 2006, 05:19 AM
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| Lost in Thought  Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia
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| Re: Do you know anything about ships? My family on my dad's side is dutch and a person on the ship had the same name as ours. Odd thing is that he used the name as a first name when, to our knowledge it has always only ever been a surname..hmmmm...interesting. So there is a possibility we might be connected...i doubt it, but it is possible and cool to think about.... Just thought Id throw that out there  An interesting but very sad story the Batavia... |
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8th January 2006, 08:23 AM
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| Moderator  Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Australia
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| Re: Do you know anything about ships? Here's an interesting article from the maritime museuem of australia I myself visited 6 months ago that assisted in building a replica of the Batavia. I don't know much about ships but they seem to be saying it was a three-masted merchant ship designed on the fly by the Dutch who used no formal plans to build the ship but rather drew upon their own knowledge and experience. http://www.anmm.gov.au/batavia3.htm |
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