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| KSeriphyn Designs Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia, New South Wales
Posts: 103
| Re: General advice from published authors to aspiring writers Quote:
I've started to collect my rejections and research the company a bit more to see why they would've rejected based on their mission statments and how well they are doing financially. I deem how well based on their client's booksale success (dodgy figures as I can only go on bestseller lists via bookstore newsletters). I've collected a brief business trend report on just one agent so far. Very interesting to see the highs and lows. Isn't winter a good period for sales? I hate to think of the story I'm trying to pitch as $$$ If I want to break into publishing, I guess that's just what I have to do. One piece of advice I read in a How To book that makes me laugh, "write what sells and write for the market." Like, yeah sure, the market likes Harry Potter today. Who knows what they will like next year? It's taken me a year to complete my manuscript and would probably take 2 -3 year before I see it on a shelf (if I'm lucky). | |
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| Meg Wild Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Surrey
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But really, it IS true that the important thing is to actually put words onto paper. And however awful you think it is at the time - I love nothing better than to go back and rework something I've already written. It's... satisfying. Writing is all in the Rewriting - although I've no idea who it was that said that. | ||
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| Writer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 284
| Re: General advice from published authors to aspiring writers Not all, Meg, just the majority! I'm glad to know I have a ?20-year-old reader too. As a matter of fact, anyone who read City of Masks at 14, when it first came out would now be 19. I agree about getting the words on paper and also about re-writing. The second draft is a doddle compared with getting that first draft down. Mary |
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| Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nottinghamshire
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| Re: General advice from published authors to aspiring writers Hi, folks, You'll have to forgive my ignorance and clumsiness, I'm new to forums. I've been writing for a few years, and though I've gotten more confident with my work, it's only been since my fiance made me buy an Apple and get on the net that I've really realised just how ar** about face I've been doing things. I write and re-write, hone and hone, and my tactics are getting better. But can anyone tell me how to cope with this: Imagine, you prime a likely editor or publisher and send off your three chapters and intro, all crisp and new and with an sae. You wait a few weeks, then drop in a polite, upbeat phone call, just to let them know you're still alive. A few more weeks pass and, say on a wednesday, at one o'clock, the braindead Sloane on the other end of the phone hasn't got a clue who you are and bleats they're really snowed under. You're super polite and back off, not wanting them to associate you with a negative. The next day, your script arrives in the post, either unopened or with a footprint on it. Now, since you rang at one o'clock the day before and they hadn't read your work in the previous eight weeks, it's a fair assumption that they just stuffed it into the envelope, unread, and then into the post. The 'thanks but no thanks' slip says nothing except they are too busy to give a detailed review. They have just wasted eight weeks of your time. What do you do? Howcan you break through? It's a common thing for me. Yours, Baby Cromwell |
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| Loopy Kit Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cumbria
Posts: 2,036
| Re: General advice from published authors to aspiring writers Cromwell, don't ever expect to get a review of your work. Only if the agent/editor thinks you've got potential will they write a comment about your novel (and that does not mean to change what they suggest and then send it back). Most writers receive pre-written rejection slips; agents and editors are busy, and they don't have time to comment on someone's work unless they truly love it. If you get NO positive feedback, it's time to look at your work again. Could it be that you've too much passive? Have you head-swapped? Is your writing not special enough? Is your story hackneyed and cliché? Is your protagonist likeable? Do you repeat yourself? Etc., etc. Remember, 99% of writers are turned down after the first page. Make your opening hook - and shine. And if you do get something positive from someone, take their comment/s at face value. They have no reason to exaggerate. ![]() |
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| Loopy Kit Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cumbria
Posts: 2,036
| Re: General advice from published authors to aspiring writers *rushes back because she forgot to say welcome* Welcome to the Chrons, by the way! You'll find this is the best place to help you with your writing, and the people here are friendly and always willing to help. ![]() |
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| Armchair Archaeologist Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Texas
Posts: 42
| Re: General advice from published authors to aspiring writers It goes without saying that one needs to write, rewrite and rewrite again. But there comes a point when you've polished your work till there's no more polishing to be done. That's when you simply have to believe in your work (or have someone believe strongly enough in you to keep you going.) While getting that first novel published at a big name company (or even a small press that hands out nice little advances)is what we all dream about, the reality is that doesn't happen very often. Sometimes you have to make your entrance. Financial genius Dave Ramsey ALWAYS recommends using a self-publisher to break into print. Sell your books yourself, he says, and then the big companies will come after you. I have to admit after 15 years of rejection slips a mile deep (no, I'm not exaggerating! --well, maybe just a little! ), I was encouraged to try a self-publishing company. I did NOT choose a vanity publisher. I spent years perfecting my book and I'm not about to pay someone else to publish my work. So I would never recommend that type of company.Last year I published my first sci fi novel with PublishAmerica. It's very satisfying to hold one's creation in one's hands. The royalty checks are nice, too! Even better is doing book signings. While I haven't broken a million books yet (looonnggg way to go), I've found it a very good way to break into print with my first novel. As a general rule, most first novels have a difficult time selling and this is one way to improve your craft. |
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| Greybeard Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 431
| Re: General advice from published authors to aspiring writers Those thinking about self-publishing (or just generally interested in publishing) may wish to read this: ON PUBLISHING FICTION |
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| Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Netherlands
Posts: 18
| Re: General advice from published authors to aspiring writers I have yet to deal with publishers or agents, and as a 21-year old I'm not at all sure if I want to just yet. But I do have some rules for myself, and I would appreciate feedback on them: 1. Keep writing. I've had a year or two in which I didn't write anything, just because one day I didn't feel like it. The longer you stay off from writing the harder it gets to start up again. There are so much things to do in life, and the only good way to make yourself want to write is by writing itself, it makes me think about my characters, my story, etc. 2. Don't do one thing at a time. The good news is, I love reading, I love writing, and I love thinking up plots. The bad news is I don't like rewriting, and I don't like writing down plots. But every one of these processes is nescesary for me. If I spend 3 days on rewriting, or 3 days on writing down plots, I lose motivation. So my mandate for myself is to spend an equal amount of time on each of these processes each day (expect thinking up plots - that should happen all day long and if it doesn't I'm not doing a good enough job). 3. Don't read too many other aspiring artist/poet works. That can seriously get you unmotivated because you're bound to run into things you think are boring. 4. Similarly, only show your own work to people you know are good at critisising and won't just say "it sucks", or even worse "splendid, I love it!". 5. Write about yourself as a character. Then take what you like from that character, and ditch what you don't. Never use the character, but keep it as an archetype. 6. Similarly, in every situation and scene, think of how you or someone you know would act, say and what the motivation would be. 7. Keep reading. Know what you like, and what you don't like. Know what you can pull off, and where you limits are. Don't be afraid to say "now that's a good author, I could never write like that but I sure love it". Then think of how you cán write. 8. Never plan too much in advance. Give yourself some breathing space. Don't plan too many character deaths - you'll want to have room left over to use them when writing. 9. Start off by going "what does my novel have that other novels don't have?". Be original but stay within one genre. 10. Think up one cool thing that defines your novel/character/scene. Base the rest around it. |
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