The Dragon Has Three Heads

[Faceless Woman]

WW, that's sort of what I meant, almost. That the story isn't about property, or who wins the throne in the end. I think people focus way too much on that. It is important, but so is what is happening at the wall.

[Donkey!]

hi, new to the forums, read all the books though (best books i have ever read - hands down)

uhm...how about two of the heads are dead. as in dany's brother and the ol maester from the wall...or is that too silly? i havent gotten into all the "Jon is a Targaryen" talk, but i dont think he is, as far as i can see, the last 3 targaryens were(are) the ones above...

[Aegon the Unworthy]

tee hee....pull up a chair Donkey...grab yer beverage of choice, and await the barrage...

Ill sit over here and watch whilst I chortle.

[TK-421]

Especially with that avatar

[Boaz]

Hasselhoff is a Targ! It is known.

[Aegon the Unworthy]

If no one actually throws monkey poo at Donkey! its not actually a barrage, so please dont make a liar out of me....

So to quote one of those Kid Movies...."If you have any poo....throw it now"

[Boaz]

Welcome Donk.

I'm too tired to retype the whole argument for Aegon. If you want the arguments for R+L=J then read the following threads.

These are about Jon's parentage.

http://www.chronicles-network.com/fo...-if-r-l-j.html

http://www.chronicles-network.com/fo...ry-on-jon.html

http://www.chronicles-network.com/fo...ry-on-jon.html

http://www.chronicles-network.com/fo...ian-blood.html

This deals with Rhaegar.

http://www.chronicles-network.com/fo...iscussion.html

Good Luck.

[Faceless Woman]

I can't beleive no-one realised this, including me. Jon has to be Ned's son, because he has Ghost. The direwolves aren't just for Starks, because else Ned would have had one. They are for Ned's children.
Ghost is albino because Jon is not 'trueborn'.
Still a chance he's Lyanna's, but I'd be very dissapointed if he were, and certainly not Reagar's.

[Florian the Fool]

Ghost is an albino. White hair, purple eyes.... Sound like anyone else we know of?

[Faceless Woman]

Red eyes. Red is not purple.

[Florian the Fool]

A kind of purpley-red, I always thought. Close enough for me, anyhow. I was pretty much sold on R+L=J already.

[Faceless Woman]

So was I. Nevertheless, red is not purple.

[Aegon the Unworthy]

Yes but Red + Blue= Purple....and Lyanna loved Blue Roses....and Ghosts eyes are red, so Jon is the illegitimate son of Ghost and Lyanna....my logic is astonishing sometimes....

All that aside, I think ascribing eye color as proof of parentage is ridiculous. It could be indicative yes but as actual proof its silly. Unless of course you have some genealogical data that proves it.....I think Ghost is different because Jon is different, thats all. Or Jon is different because Ghost is different, your call on that one....the extended metaphor that is the wolves can only go so far before it breaks down anyhow.

[Faceless Woman]

LMAO. So Jon is part Direwolf. That explains a lot.
Whenever someone says Blue Roses I think of the Glass Menagarie, a play by Tenassee Williams (boy Americans give their kids weird names). Does anyone know what I'm talking about? No?
Ok, I'll go be random somewhere else.

[Florian the Fool]

I got so excited about this little theory that I dug out a copy of AGOT to find out just what colour Ghost's eyes were, and found that they are, in fact, "as red as the blood of the ragged man who had died that morning".

I briefly toyed with the idea of arguing that Gared's blood might actually have been purple before giving up and admitting that I shouldn't post on an empty stomach.

In my defence, I would say that I wasn't offering the colour of Ghost's eyes as uncontestable proof of Jon's Targaryen parentage, merely that they might have been a clue from the author. But that is by the by, as I was quite spectaculary and inexcusably wrong.

I'll go and crawl back into my hole for another 6 -12 months.