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Old 29th November 2006, 10:05 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Old 30th November 2006, 08:30 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Dead dragon, way not? They aren’t powerful (jet). Somebody can easily kill one of them. And then there are 2 …

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Old 30th November 2006, 11:51 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Quoth. And I don't see the point in killing a dragon, same as I don't see the point in a dead Brienne, whereas I do see a point in a dead Ned.
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Old 30th November 2006, 03:58 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Way are you looking for a point? The dragon eat a child... i say:WAY NOT
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Old 30th November 2006, 04:39 PM   #65 (permalink)
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huh?
I don't mean to be rude but what in blazes are you on about?
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Old 30th November 2006, 06:52 PM   #66 (permalink)
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What I meant was if you can lose a child to gain a dragon, why not the other way around?
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Old 30th November 2006, 06:56 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Everybody is looking for three riders. But what if one dragon dies before Danny found a rider for him?? Dragons need riders fast, they aren't trained, and they are killing people.
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What I meant was if you can lose a child to gain a dragon, why not the other way around?
what you meant ???
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Old 30th November 2006, 09:10 PM   #69 (permalink)
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She means that life can pay for life. I suddenly see a point.
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Old 30th November 2006, 09:47 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Oh I see, sorry.

Could Stanis not be one of the heads or will he have his own dragon? It's been ages and several books ago that I read Crows, so I apologise if I'm way of the mark.
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Old 30th November 2006, 10:35 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Stannis!? Stannis!?
Oh, seven save me! Stannis! Never. Stannis is not Targ, nor would Dany ever have such bad taste and bad sense as to give Stannis a dragon. Perhaps you were thinking of someone else: Stannis is Melisandre's puppet king, Robert's brother. You must be thinking of someone else. You must.
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She means that life can pay for life. I suddenly see a point.
The chief trouble with being a tree seems to be a great deal of gender confusion....
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Old 1st December 2006, 08:46 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Didn't you say you were a girl, at one point? No? Sorry, sir.
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Old 1st December 2006, 03:01 PM   #74 (permalink)
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At the risk of bringing the thread back on topic....everyone is assuming that Daenerys will be one of the three heads. I think that it would fit well with GRRM's track record so far if Dany did not survive to see her dragons reclaim Westeros and defeat the Others. I can easily imagine her recruiting one other dragonrider (quite possible Tyrion) and that rider then having to recruit a further two following Dany's death (at the hand's of Jorah Mormont, maybe, but that's just wild speculation on my part). Maybe Jon and Bran?

I forget the nature of the prophecy regarding PTWP/AA. Does PTWP/AA have anything to do beyond reclaiming the weapon that can defeat evil? If not, then Dany has already fulfilled that prophecy and is expendible. And even that is assuming that the prophecy has to be fulfilled which, given GRRM's fondness for subverting genre tropes, is not a given.

Thinking while I'm typing here, so a lot of this may be garbage. If so, apologies.
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Old 1st December 2006, 03:19 PM   #75 (permalink)
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If by the weapon that can defeat evil you mean the dragons, you may have a point, but only if TPTWP and AA are the same thing. Actually, I think only Azhor Ahai can weild the fiery weapon, as only Dany can control the dragons, so I think she has to be alive.
My thought is that the third head doesn't actually have to be a Targ. Maybe Tyrion telling Jon that he dreamed of dragons was a set up for Jon begging Dany to make him the third head, on the basis of their friendship. Also thinking while I type, which explains any inconsistancies.
I like Bran as a dragonrider, btw, but I think he will find his wings as a Warg instead. Not a whole lot of point in wolves and Hodors if you have dragons.

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