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Old 8th November 2005, 08:37 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Surprised to see as yet no posts about the sacrifice of the bull.....
It was great to see Mithraism in action - a nice detail to the episode that helps bring Rome to life.
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Old 8th November 2005, 06:39 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Thanks Brian,..now i have to go look this Mithraism up!.

Just what i need at my age,...Homework.

Hope they eat the bull afterwards,terrible waste of steaks other-wise.
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Old 8th November 2005, 07:57 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Mithraism had people baptised in blood by having a bull slaughtered above them - I *think* there may have been a quick version in Gladitator when they're walking a tunnel at the first arena - Mithraism was apparently very popular with the legionaries, as it was centered on a cosmic battle between Good and Evil. There are claims of commonalities with Christianity, but whenever I try and dig deeper, there's little enough of Mithraism left to make a good comparison.

Anyway...nice to see it in Rome...


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Old 8th November 2005, 08:11 PM   #19 (permalink)
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and the sex! sorry I been single for a while
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Old 8th November 2005, 08:14 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Qiuck question,.Mithraism,do you know if it is east or west based?.Will save me time. ...and work.
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Old 9th November 2005, 02:48 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Mithras, as far as I know, is an entriely Roman god.

Might be wrong though
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Old 9th November 2005, 08:27 AM   #22 (permalink)
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So far as I understand it, Mithraism originated in Turkey and became relatively common in parts of the Roman Empire. Not an official Roman state god, though. Mithraism itself apparently has a derivative relationship to Zoroastrianism, a very ancient religion whose heartland is on the steppes of Iran, and may pre-date Judaism.

Oh - tonight, Rome, episode 2.
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Err. No it's not. Not where we are anyway. BBC1 Scotland are showing the Old Firm cup tie. Much as I want to see the Bhoys defeat the horde from Ibrox, I don't want to miss Rome. Looks like we'll have to settle with the repeat
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Correction - Rome is on BBC2 in Scotland. Looks like I'll have some serious channel switching to do tonight
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Old 9th November 2005, 06:55 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Rome is on BBC2 in England too Just the repeat thats on BBC1, I think.
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Ouch! Starting the show with some Roman-style trepanning made me feel quite queasy!

An Ok episode which lacked the sex of the first but made me wonder if each show was going to try and shock us in new and imaginitive ways?
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Yeah, could someone explain to me what that was all about please?
The skull removal and all...
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Old 9th November 2005, 10:47 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I have watched the first 10 episodes and they are awesome. I won't spoil it for you people other than to say please continue to watch this series.

And the Roman god Mithras was the god of soldiers or something, well he was in Bernard Cornwell's Warlord Trilogy. It must have must been the first free mason-esque cult, which I believe originated in Persia 4000 years ago.
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Yeah, could someone explain to me what that was all about please?
The skull removal and all...

Trepanning - an extremely ancient medical technique for "curing" all sorts of ailments. Apparently practised thousands of years before the Roman Empire.

Also, even hundreds of years at least prior to the Roman Empire, removing people's blood from their bodies was often seen as a method of healing... . Seriously. They were doing that until at least the 18th century.

As for tonight's episode - enjoyed it. Wasn't so keen on some of the attempted character development, as the political game was really the hook - Pompeii setting up a military response and acting sure of his strategy, despite Cato's protestations that he was giving up Rome without unsheating his sword.

I found myself willing the characters on, though - and noticed myself and girlfriend were unconsciously biting our nails, even though I don't normally do that. I guess that means there was a tension we could appreciate.

Some of the budget limitations were apparent - the film-maker made a point of *not* showing an overview of Rome as Caesar approached it, but overall it seems pretty well done and I'm still very enthusiastic over it.
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Old 9th November 2005, 11:44 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Yeah, so far so good, I found some of the dialogue dubius though. They mixed roman and british slang and sayings and that along with the british accents spolit some of the authentisity for me.

Looking forward to seeing what happens to the gold.
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