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Rosemary · 22nd September 2005, 06:45 PM

This character has been puzzling me for quite a while.

'Kruppe will organise it' 'Kruppe believes it will'

This mode of speech is so familiar. I know it was a few years ago, so naturally cannot recall the details!! Another author had written in exactly the same way.

Does anybody else remember this?

Brys · 22nd September 2005, 06:50 PM

I can't really think of anyone else who has a character talk in the 3rd person at the moment. The only thing that seems similar to me is in the Elder Scrolls games the beast races (Khajiit and Argonian, for anyone whose played them) talk in 3rd person, but I can't think of another author using it.

Rosemary · 22nd September 2005, 07:14 PM

Thanks Brys.

I have never played those particular games, so it obviously wasn't there. Oh well, I shall just have to try and recall some more details.

Rane Longfox · 22nd September 2005, 08:38 PM

Can't think of anyone quite like Kruppe, tbh

cacotopos · 22nd September 2005, 09:52 PM

Could it be Jack Shaftoe from the Baroque Cycle by Neal Stephenson, or are you possibly thinking of Iskaral Pust from Malazan too?

Rosemary · 22nd September 2005, 10:12 PM

Certainly not Jack Shaftoe. I don't think it could have been Iskarl as I have only been reading Erikson for a short time. Still, will double check on that just to be sure.

GOLLUM · 26th September 2005, 04:56 AM

All shall be revealed in the fullness of time regarding my ally Kruppe Rosemary...

knivesout · 26th September 2005, 08:26 AM

Well, Julius Caesar referred to himself in the third person in his account of the Gaulish conquest, which forms the basis for several stock jokes in the Asterix comics by Goscinny and Underzo, which could be another place you encountered a Kruppe-ish mode of speech. A good example is this exchange from Mansions of the Gods, where Caesar has just been presenting his plans for Gaul in the third-person,and his lackey wishes to express how impressed he is:

Lackey: He's great.
JC: Who?
Lackey: You.
JC: Oh, him.

dwndrgn · 26th September 2005, 01:54 PM

I know I've read a couple of novels that use this for a character here and there. Can't think of what they are at the moment, sorry Rosemary, I'm no help!

Rosemary · 26th September 2005, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwndrgn

I know I've read a couple of novels that use this for a character here and there. Can't think of what they are at the moment, sorry Rosemary, I'm no help!

No matter dwndrgn - It might come to me but I certainly won't be losing any sleep over it.

dwndrgn · 26th September 2005, 03:59 PM

Now that you've said that, I can imagine myself darting up from under the piles of blankets and dogs screaming "I know who talks in third person!!!" I'm sure my husband will truly appreciate this.

Rosemary · 26th September 2005, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwndrgn

Now that you've said that, I can imagine myself darting up from under the piles of blankets and dogs screaming "I know who talks in third person!!!" I'm sure my husband will truly appreciate this.

Well, in that case then I shall try and find out the answer! I would hate to be the one that might cause you to go through that nightmare you described,with your family !!

Azzriel · 7th October 2005, 08:54 PM

Kruppe has a way of talking to himself in a similar vein to Gollum.. not the same I hasten to add... but there are similarities. Iskaral Pust also has an inner dialogue

Rosemary · 7th October 2005, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azzriel

Kruppe has a way of talking to himself in a similar vein to Gollum.. not the same I hasten to add... but there are similarities. Iskaral Pust also has an inner dialogue

Must admit I hadn't thought of Gollum but no that would have been to easy an answer.

Which book is Pust in?

nixie · 7th October 2005, 09:12 PM

Deadhouse Gates

22nd September 2005, 06:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rosemary The Wicked Sword Maiden Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia, Western Australia Posts: 3,022	Kruppe This character has been puzzling me for quite a while. 'Kruppe will organise it' 'Kruppe believes it will' This mode of speech is so familiar. I know it was a few years ago, so naturally cannot recall the details!! Another author had written in exactly the same way. Does anybody else remember this?

22nd September 2005, 06:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
Brys Moderator Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 809	Re: Kruppe I can't really think of anyone else who has a character talk in the 3rd person at the moment. The only thing that seems similar to me is in the Elder Scrolls games the beast races (Khajiit and Argonian, for anyone whose played them) talk in 3rd person, but I can't think of another author using it.

22nd September 2005, 07:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
Rosemary The Wicked Sword Maiden Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia, Western Australia Posts: 3,022	Re: Kruppe Thanks Brys. I have never played those particular games, so it obviously wasn't there. Oh well, I shall just have to try and recall some more details.

22nd September 2005, 08:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
Rane Longfox Pallid, Lumigoth Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Greater Manchester Posts: 3,187	Re: Kruppe Can't think of anyone quite like Kruppe, tbh

22nd September 2005, 09:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
cacotopos Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 15	Re: Kruppe Could it be Jack Shaftoe from the Baroque Cycle by Neal Stephenson, or are you possibly thinking of Iskaral Pust from Malazan too?

22nd September 2005, 10:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
Rosemary The Wicked Sword Maiden Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia, Western Australia Posts: 3,022	Re: Kruppe Certainly not Jack Shaftoe. I don't think it could have been Iskarl as I have only been reading Erikson for a short time. Still, will double check on that just to be sure.

26th September 2005, 04:56 AM	#7 (permalink)
GOLLUM Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 5,295	Re: Kruppe All shall be revealed in the fullness of time regarding my ally Kruppe Rosemary...

26th September 2005, 08:26 AM	#8 (permalink)
knivesout cheap,flashy little crook Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,998	Re: Kruppe Well, Julius Caesar referred to himself in the third person in his account of the Gaulish conquest, which forms the basis for several stock jokes in the Asterix comics by Goscinny and Underzo, which could be another place you encountered a Kruppe-ish mode of speech. A good example is this exchange from Mansions of the Gods, where Caesar has just been presenting his plans for Gaul in the third-person,and his lackey wishes to express how impressed he is: Lackey: He's great. JC: Who? Lackey: You. JC: Oh, him.

26th September 2005, 01:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
dwndrgn Fierce Vowelless One Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 3,671	Re: Kruppe I know I've read a couple of novels that use this for a character here and there. Can't think of what they are at the moment, sorry Rosemary, I'm no help!

26th September 2005, 03:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
dwndrgn Fierce Vowelless One Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 3,671	Re: Kruppe Now that you've said that, I can imagine myself darting up from under the piles of blankets and dogs screaming "I know who talks in third person!!!" I'm sure my husband will truly appreciate this.

7th October 2005, 08:54 PM	#13 (permalink)
Azzriel Deviant Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 23	Re: Kruppe Kruppe has a way of talking to himself in a similar vein to Gollum.. not the same I hasten to add... but there are similarities. Iskaral Pust also has an inner dialogue

7th October 2005, 09:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
nixie pixie druid Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 2,627	Re: Kruppe Deadhouse Gates

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