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Originally Posted by genisis2 Seriously TG I remember in the Erikson thread that you were much nicer, something about not quite getting into the book. I certainly dont remember any threads that claimed Erikson was god. |
Sorry if I was a bit too harsh, I certainly didnt mean anything personal, it was late here and I was very tired when I wrote that.
We're still friends!
The truth is that Ive been trying to get into the series after so many people here and on the ASOIAF board rave about Erikson. Truthfully I began to suspect it was some sort of joke. Kind of along the lines how some people pretend to like Goodkind, but do so facetiously.
Like I said before, there seems to have been a decision made somewhere that its a universal truth that Erikson is equal to or superior to Martin. I kind of felt like I was the only person who read both and said "wha???". Recently Ive been emboldened by finally reading some like-minded opinions on other boards. At last I dont feel crazy and am the only one who feels this way.
I just wanted to state for the record that I do not agree. Im "coming out of the closet" as it were and announcing my love for GRRM.
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Lets be honest. First you say that you have trouble relating to his gay protaganists but then you go on to say you have no problem with it on a personal level. Then end it with, "there are many other works I can read "the very fact that you bring it up in my opinion shows that you do have a problem with it. The way you end your opinion also shows you have a problem with it. Do you share the same opinion of Jaime and his sisters relationship? Can you relate to that? Are you really not judging someones work based on relationships that are gay or strait? Reread your post.
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There are openly gay characters in ASOIAF (ok, not openly to the world so much, but clear to the reader). I have no problem with it whatsoever. Search these and other boards though and you'll find many posts where individuals were shocked by the notion that Renly was gay. I never was. Doesnt bother me a bit. In fact, I have read works by openly homosexual authors with clear a definative bent to their themes like James Baldwin, Oscar Wilde, Franz Kafka, Jeanette Winterson, Ive seen the Torch Song Trilogy etc. Great stuff. The difference here is that what I want out of my fantasy novels is just...something different. I usually like to imagine myself in the role of the main characters...its just...hard to do when they start kissing other men....you see what I mean?
Personally I think the idea of a strong gay male character in fantasy is a great one. Just, mmm....when there's more than one it begins to appear more like a...statement.
I felt the same way about the Poppy Bright horror novels, but I didnt have a problem with Anne Rice's vampire novels or Moorcock's Jerry Cornelius. Hopefully thats enough examples to see the difference.