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Old 12th August 2005, 05:16 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Who is the giant?

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I dont think so. I mean, I find it hard to get past the strong connection Bran has with the Gods. They play a huge role we just arent seeing yet (the Gods that is). I still think it is Gods who are the shadows, not the Hound and Gregor. I cant buy that theory. Plus I believe the Gods sent Bran the dreams to begin with.
Well, Miss Drogon, GRRM has confirmed that the Gods don't get directly involved in ASOIAF, in an interview:
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A: "That's a fairly safe assumption, yes".

Good news for you magic fans out there I briefly discussed the role of Gods in the magic of Westeros. R'hllor etc. He has ruled out any appearances of 'demigods' or direct involvement from the Gods in Westeros though.


Of course, he could just be trying to throw you off the scent.
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Old 12th August 2005, 06:15 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Ayra,

I didnt say that the Gods were going to appear, I just thought that they play a role in the book, which I still think. Obvioulsy they play a role, or there would be no mention of all the different Gods. I thought maybe it was the Gods who were looking over them, and I never said Hodor was a God, just maybe he was sent here from the Gods. I mean why has him and Nan lived for so long with no divine intervention.

Anyway, I was posting a theory for fun, because I thought this was an interesting topic.

Like I said, mere speculation, I didnt say I was right and everyone else was wrong
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Old 12th August 2005, 07:30 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Arya, I didnt say that the Gods were going to appear, I just thought that they play a role in the book, which I still think. Obvioulsy they play a role, or there would be no mention of all the different Gods. I thought maybe it was the Gods who were looking over them, and I never said Hodor was a God, just maybe he was sent here from the Gods. I mean why has him and Nan lived for so long with no divine intervention.
No worries, I know it was all a theory. I was just pointing out that GRRM said that the Gods were not directly involved in the story, that's all.

As for Nan living for so long, I'm wondering if maybe she was part CoF herself?
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Old 12th August 2005, 08:54 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Who is the giant?

Only part?
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Old 12th August 2005, 09:19 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I'm thinkin' 99/100ths...
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Old 15th August 2005, 05:52 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Both Aemon and Shae called a certain dwarf a giant...

If the theory of the OP is that they are protectors of Stark children, then Osha, Hodor, and Brienne should be added to the list.

If the shadows are threats, then Gregor is at or near the top of the list. But then Roose Bolton, Tywin, and Amory Lorch all let Arya slip through their fingers too.
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Old 16th August 2005, 02:21 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Perhaps the shadows are not threats but are characters who will repent or come to aid the starks. This would include Sandor as he helped Sansa and Arya by teaching her about the gift of mercy. Jaime we learn is not such a bad fella and is now trying to reunite Catelyn's daughters by helping Brienne and giving her the sword. Along these lines Gregor doesn't seem like a likely canidate for the giant.
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I'm thinking the giant might represent Bravos. Their sigil is the Titan which could be confused for the giant by Bran who is very young. In the Arya sample chapter that was on GRRM's site Arya passes under the Titan and notices that it is really hollow and filled with men. Also Arya's role will seem to bring her into a very high circle in Bravos, the coin and the words alone got her the captains cabin and free passage to Bravos. If she were to rise up very high in her order she may even command some of the strength of Bravos and use it to either avenge her family or help Dany conquer Westeros.
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Old 16th August 2005, 03:44 PM   #23 (permalink)
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cercar, aaaahhh! Braavos.
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Old 16th August 2005, 04:42 PM   #24 (permalink)
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cercar, aaaahhh! Braavos.
Haha that was so eloquent, Boaz.

I thought about that a bit myself, Cercar, although I didn't bring the connection quite as far as you did. I've read a spoiler for a second Arya chapter, and I'm not sure that she'll be as integrated into the Braavosi as that, though... It's a very interesting idea. I'll be glad to see if it actually happens.
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Old 16th August 2005, 07:29 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Perhaps the shadows are not threats but are characters who will repent or come to aid the starks. This would include Sandor as he helped Sansa and Arya by teaching her about the gift of mercy. Jaime we learn is not such a bad fella and is now trying to reunite Catelyn's daughters by helping Brienne and giving her the sword. Along these lines Gregor doesn't seem like a likely canidate for the giant.
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I'm thinking the giant might represent Bravos. Their sigil is the Titan which could be confused for the giant by Bran who is very young. In the Arya sample chapter that was on GRRM's site Arya passes under the Titan and notices that it is really hollow and filled with men. Also Arya's role will seem to bring her into a very high circle in Bravos, the coin and the words alone got her the captains cabin and free passage to Bravos. If she were to rise up very high in her order she may even command some of the strength of Bravos and use it to either avenge her family or help Dany conquer Westeros.
Most probably! And the giant is faceless.
I think this is a good shot.
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Old 24th November 2006, 12:12 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Why has no-one mentioned Greatjon Umber?
He was temporarily a threat to Robb, remember. And I think he is still alive... Right?
The Titan theory is a good one, though.
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