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Mouse · 14th July 2006, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlottaVonUberwald

im sorry i think the woman is an ignorant pig i always have done ..her books are not 'edgy' you canf ind exact replicas where she clearly stole her ideas from pritty much and so therefore terry i applaud thee

an JK rowling nice i havent read seen one interview with her where she doesnt come across as pretentious and up herself... she contradicts herself when discussing her personal life and claims originality where none exisists

SHes written the same un original a book however many zillion copies there are and i HATE adults who call it great reading for youths ..so damned patronising if you ask me

I could not agree more! I can't stand the woman, she's so up herself! I saw her on Richard and Judy and I was yelling madly at the TV for her to shut up, and they were encouraging the woman! I wanted to shake her!

I, Brian · 14th July 2006, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlottaVonUberwald

with a shot gun?

'Fraid I've never seen (or read) any interviews with Rowling, so I can't share the strong feelings some people here have.

CarlottaVonUberwald · 14th July 2006, 07:46 PM

i'll do it if pulling the trigger is your fear?

pyan · 15th July 2006, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlottaVonUberwald

im sorry i think the woman is an ignorant pig i always have done ..her books are not 'edgy' you canf ind exact replicas where she clearly stole her ideas from pritty much and so therefore terry i applaud thee

an JK rowling nice i havent read seen one interview with her where she doesnt come across as pretentious and up herself... she contradicts herself when discussing her personal life and claims originality where none exisists

SHes written the same un original a book however many zillion copies there are and i HATE adults who call it great reading for youths ..so damned patronising if you ask me

Don't beat about the bush, Carlotta; come out and say what you really think!

Teresa Edgerton · 15th July 2006, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by I, Brian

Apparently she doesn't live too far away from where I live - she's just up the M90 in Perthshire. Shame I don't know anything more exact, or I could try and set up an interview.

I'm not a big Rowling fan, but I would read with great interest an interview conducted by someone who knows fantasy and isn't egging her on to make dismissive pronouncements about the genre.

The Ace · 17th July 2006, 12:51 PM

I'm trying to forget she lives in Perthshire, I just pray hard her Computer doesn't break down as I'm the poor sod who'll have to fix it. I enjoyed her books and can't wait for the next one, but someone PLEASE gag her until she has read enough fantasy to form an honest opinion.

The Ace · 17th July 2006, 12:54 PM

Tell you what, if she does come in, I'll tie her to a chair with the boss' tongue (he worship's her) until she consents to give an interview.

CarlottaVonUberwald · 19th July 2006, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Teresa Edgerton

I'm not a big Rowling fan, but I would read with great interest an interview conducted by someone who knows fantasy and isn't egging her on to make dismissive pronouncements about the genre.

she doesnt take much egging for a self professed non fan...

In search of forever · 22nd July 2006, 05:40 PM

Call me cynical but are TG and JKR worried that if they came out and said their books were fantasy then they would see sales drop and less cash in their pockets? Surely not!

timekiller · 22nd August 2006, 01:09 AM

Now i turned 15 on the 31st (i know Jk's birthday) and the Hp books DO NOT! make children read all they read is HP and think all other reading is "gay" etc

Now ive read adult fiction GRRM, RJ, Pretchet etc and the Hp books had nothing to do with it I personally find the books really childish i mean a teenage boy v a older more experienced and knowelegable guy and all his minions like what the hell?

and whats this about not being a fantasy book? she lives in a world of her own.
I also hate all the HP merchindise. Dosent she have enough money?

In conclusion HP is **** on other authors boots =D

Now im gonna go and watch waynes world =D

Thadlerian · 22nd August 2006, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by In search of forever

Call me cynical but are TG and JKR worried that if they came out and said their books were fantasy then they would see sales drop and less cash in their pockets? Surely not!

I think they're more worried that if they're identified as Speculative Fiction writers, then media and mainstream writers will look down upon them. Which is basically a correct assumption, as far as I can see.

ray gower · 22nd August 2006, 04:45 PM

Let's be honest as an attack it has all the damage potential of your mother's moistened hanky. It is really time Rowling wrote a new press statement for the chat circuiits, she was saying the same thing when Potter first hit the news and I would happily accept that she did not think she was writing a fantasy.

Early stories bears more relationship to Enid Blyton's Famous Five, or perhaps a Dorothy Sayers whodunnit, than fantasy. Now, I would tend to consider them closer to the bitterness of Tom Brown's School Days.

The fact that she has set them in a 'magical' surround merely adds a classification for indexing. It does not necessarily make the story a fantasy as far as the writing is concerned.

Sadly, looking at the shelf of her books, she does appear to be picking up one of the more distressing trends of current fantasy and fiction writers; that of having little to say and a lot of space to say it in.

Thadlerian · 27th August 2006, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ray gower

The fact that she has set them in a 'magical' surround merely adds a classification for indexing. It does not necessarily make the story a fantasy as far as the writing is concerned.

But what is Fantasy then, if not stories set in Fantastical environments?

I see Fantasy as a over-genre that simply encompasses everything that's not possible, and will never be, in the reality that we percieve.

CarlottaVonUberwald · 27th August 2006, 03:06 PM

so were all agreed she's an idiot?

no darnit...

sanityassassin · 27th August 2006, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Thadlerian

But what is Fantasy then, if not stories set in Fantastical environments?

I see Fantasy as a over-genre that simply encompasses everything that's not possible, and will never be, in the reality that we percieve.

To actually quote my mother from a number of years ago when she asked me what type of books I preferred reading and I replied Fantasy she said that all works of fiction are fantasy as none of it is real and therefore it is fantasy

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timekiller Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK: ENGLAND: Posts: 56	Re: Terry Pratchett lays into JK Rowling! Now i turned 15 on the 31st (i know Jk's birthday) and the Hp books DO NOT! make children read all they read is HP and think all other reading is "gay" etc Now ive read adult fiction GRRM, RJ, Pretchet etc and the Hp books had nothing to do with it I personally find the books really childish i mean a teenage boy v a older more experienced and knowelegable guy and all his minions like what the hell? and whats this about not being a fantasy book? she lives in a world of her own. I also hate all the HP merchindise. Dosent she have enough money? In conclusion HP is **** on other authors boots =D Now im gonna go and watch waynes world =D

22nd August 2006, 04:45 PM	#57 (permalink)
ray gower Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Gwynedd Posts: 3,579	Re: Terry Pratchett lays into JK Rowling! Let's be honest as an attack it has all the damage potential of your mother's moistened hanky. It is really time Rowling wrote a new press statement for the chat circuiits, she was saying the same thing when Potter first hit the news and I would happily accept that she did not think she was writing a fantasy. Early stories bears more relationship to Enid Blyton's Famous Five, or perhaps a Dorothy Sayers whodunnit, than fantasy. Now, I would tend to consider them closer to the bitterness of Tom Brown's School Days. The fact that she has set them in a 'magical' surround merely adds a classification for indexing. It does not necessarily make the story a fantasy as far as the writing is concerned. Sadly, looking at the shelf of her books, she does appear to be picking up one of the more distressing trends of current fantasy and fiction writers; that of having little to say and a lot of space to say it in.

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