Welcome aboard, dbuckinham and cersei! :wave: Good to see more people in this discussion, too!
First, I think dbuckingham's right in dismissing collegues' theory that the other ship fired its EMP just when Neo stopped the machines. I think Neo did indeed stop them himself. In fact, when he says "something's different," I think he's demonstrating for us something that happened to him when he left the source. I think acting on his decision to save Trinity changed him.
And Tabitha:
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did you all take notepads in or something?
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As a matter of fact, I did. :blush:
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doesnt the archetect say that the matrix will be destroyed if Neo goes back to it to save Trinity? If he did then why wasnt it destroyed?
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No. As a matter of fact, the Architect said that Neo's failure to return to the source would result in a system-wide crash that would kill everyone connected to the Matrix, not destroy the Matrix itself. While this may be true (and are we assuming that, as a being of reason, the Architect only tells the truth?) it would take time for the crash and subsequent effects of it. (Did I mention that I taped a bit of it, too? :blush: )
Okay... now that I've finally caught up and read
all the newer replies, I just have one thing to say:
You're blowing my "Neo fighting to become god" theory all to he[[! Good on ya!
Okay, I still have more to say. :blush: This is the first time I've heard a coherant explanation for
how Zion and the "real" world could still be another layer of the Matrix:
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a solution where the 1% humans whom would reject The Matrix can be placed into "Zion"...I believe this means a separate programme which though still plugged in, these "rebels" would make the "choice" (an artifical one as it seems, a theme in Reloaded) to be free...
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Sounds likely to me. Thanks, cersei!
As for the Architect's "please," I always thought it sounded dismissive, like there's no way the Oracle could be the "mother" of the Matrix... but it made me sad and wonder if it was added in because Gloria Foster died before she could finish her part in Revolutions. It may be that the W bros had to scramble and rethink another "mother" of the Matrix, then added in the Architect's dismissive "please" later. Remember, Reloaded was originally going to be released last year, but the pick up shots lasted a lot longer due to Alleya's(sp?) death. Real life intrudes on the making of the Matrix, too.
As for the previous versions of the "One," I don't think that they looked like Neo at all. I think the images on the TV screens behind Neo and the Architect are all Neo... throughout his "childhood." They're images that Neo will recognize. Notice that many of them are images of what happened to him in the original movie.
I think, especially if cersei is right and Neo is just another program, that his "look" changes every time as a way of trying to disguise itself from the Matrix. Why else would it have taken Morpheus and the others so much longer to find Neo? Remember that Morpheus told Neo that it was risky "freeing" Neo's mind at such a late time in his life because the mind has trouble "letting go" of the Matrix. Most minds that are going to be "freed" are so released at a younger age. Thus, the other "potentials" in the Oracle's apartment were all children.
And I tried to count the councel members, and it looked like 12, not 23.
P.S. If we're counting, I'm up to 6 viewings. 