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Old 24th May 2003, 08:39 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Originally posted by stripes
The Oracle also tells Neo... what matters most is that he must understand why he made that choice. I like the connection you made with Trinity and the human race in general, rescuing Trinity then bringing her back to life could also symbolize his role for humanity:

Saving Trinity is essential, since that shows Neo cares, he's not one dimentional, he's fully rounded, and this love for Trinity is not selfish. If he could love her, he could love humanity. But this is stretching it I suppose, oh well.
Absolutely! Not that it's stretching, but I think you're right on the mark. My friends and I were talking about his love for Trinity making him different from his "predecessors" and also making him more like us, more human. He had more time (over 20 years) inside the Matrix before he was freed and he learned there how human he really was. That was his biggest obsticle in the first movie... he had to realize that he was more than human. But at his core, he's still human. We're told this over and over throughout Reloaded. The agents at the beginning say, "He is still..." "...only human" ; Counselor Hammond tells Neo that not sleeping well means that he is "in fact, still human" ; the Marovingian tells his men (when Neo stops the blade with his bare hand) "See? He's just a man" ; and the Archtect tells Neo that he is "irrevocably human."

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I would also like to comment on the whole Christ angle of these movies, in the original, Neo was shot dead, but then came back to life, the resurrection anyone?

Perhaps Revolutions will be the Armaggedon of the bible(the battle in Zion), agent Smith(Bane) is the anti-Christ, and Neo the savior king? But not literally of course, but as a symbolism if we are to expand on the Christ=Neo mytho of the series?
Also, right on the money. Neo is the "chosen one" or the savior of humanity. Smith is his opposite... the "anti-Christ" for want of a better term, also the devil or fallen angel, since he once was part of the Matrix and "fell" when Neo destroyed him. Now he is "unplugged," on his own, and doing whatever he wants.

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When can we start discussing those cool effects and out of nowhere gags(it was a fun brawl, what made it more fun was Neo ending it by doing his "superman thing", and all the Smiths looking speechless with a kind of WTF? look on their faces, )?

I also liked Neo's "You could have just asked", line to the Oracle's bodyguard. Neo's one cool hero.
You are SOOOOO right! I loved the effects. I can't believe that anyone can actually see the digital Neo as a digital effect... wire work always looked fake to me, but I learned quickly to accept it, and during the Neo/Smith(s) fight I just flowed with everything: the slo-mo, the rolls, the kicks, the flips, the flying, the cool signpost moves (even heard the hollow hum of the thing), and the sheer number of Smiths that showed up. I just accepted it. On the fourth viewing, I looked for places where Neo looked digital, but couldn't see it. So I'm back to just accepting everything I see.

Hugo Weaving ROCKS! I loved his mutliple reactions to Neo's flight at the end of that battle. Each one was just a bit different from the others. One was definately super-p*ssed, but another was merely curious, and another even impressed. I love seeing those reactions over and over.

Can't wait to see what others think!
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