Go Back   Science Fiction Fantasy Chronicles: forums > Books and Writing > Books and Literature > General Book Discussion

General Book Discussion General Science Fiction Fantasy books and literature discussion.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old 28th March 2012, 11:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
Believer in flawed heroes
 
Coragem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Yorkshire
Posts: 459
Daniel Abraham

George RR Martin has collaborated with Daniel Abraham and speaks highly of him.

What do we think of him?

Coragem
Coragem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th March 2012, 12:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
Couch Commander
 
Grunkins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 426
Re: Daniel Abraham

I think Abraham is never going to offend. He's readable, light, and often forgettable. I doubt anyone will look back on their time spent reading an Abraham novel and think it was time wasted, nor will they look back on it as time spent doing something important. My favorite of his book is Leviathan Wakes (though I've never read any of his urban fantasy series written under the name . . . something or other).
Grunkins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th March 2012, 11:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Hypnos164's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Staffordshire
Posts: 471
Re: Daniel Abraham

Agree with Grunkins; highly readable entertainment but not likely to stay inyour thoughts after you finish a book.
Hypnos164 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th April 2012, 10:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
williamjm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Cambridgeshire
Posts: 445
Re: Daniel Abraham

I thought his "Long Price Quartet" was excellent, it starts a bit slowly but it is a series where every book than the preceding one and I think the whole was greater than the sum of the parts.

"The Dragon's Path" was comparatively disappointing, it was still a reasonably good read but it was a more generic fantasy than the Long Price books and I didn't care for the characters as much as in the other series. Hopefully the sequels will improve upon it.

"Leviathan Wakes" was great fun to read, although it didn't really bring anything new to the space opera genre.
williamjm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th April 2012, 10:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
Fantastical historian
 
Anne Lyle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cambridgeshire
Posts: 1,369
Re: Daniel Abraham

I loved "A Shadow in Summer" and am really looking forward to the rest of the Long Price Quartet - and I disagree with the "forgettable" verdict, at least in regard to that series.

Haven't read any of his other books, and the M L N Hanover UF series doesn't appeal. Sounds like he's chasing commercial success at the cost of his early promise.
Anne Lyle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th April 2012, 02:39 PM   #6 (permalink)
Believer in flawed heroes
 
Coragem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Yorkshire
Posts: 459
Re: Daniel Abraham

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anne Lyle View Post
I loved "A Shadow in Summer" and am really looking forward to the rest of the Long Price Quartet - and I disagree with the "forgettable" verdict, at least in regard to that series.
Thanks Anne, I have purchased that one now. A while back I read your review on your website and I've checked it again.

Coragem.
Coragem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th April 2012, 04:47 PM   #7 (permalink)
Couch Commander
 
Grunkins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 426
Re: Daniel Abraham

I have the first two volumes of The Long Price Quartet, but haven't read them yet. Almost started one last night, but last second opted for something else. I'll read them eventually.
Grunkins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11th April 2012, 10:04 PM   #8 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: New York
Posts: 274
Re: Daniel Abraham

I read a bit of Leviathan Wakes and was not impressed. His other books are lowly rated on goodreads so I never gave them a chance, however I did like his short story, Flat Diane.
Moggle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12th April 2012, 05:06 AM   #9 (permalink)
Fantastical historian
 
Anne Lyle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cambridgeshire
Posts: 1,369
Re: Daniel Abraham

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moggle View Post
His other books are lowly rated on goodreads...
Really? Practically all the Goodreads search results I could find on all his pseudonyms came up 4+ stars on average. If that's low, I might as well give up now
Anne Lyle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th April 2012, 07:07 AM   #10 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: New York
Posts: 274
Re: Daniel Abraham

Books written until his real name and "Hanover" are virtually all under 4. He seems to range somewhere from the mid to high 3s with the occasional 4 for a sequel. This to me is not good. It tells me that the writer is consistently mediocre, at least as a fantasy writer.
Moggle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st April 2012, 06:14 AM   #11 (permalink)
SUN STEALER
 
Galacticdefender's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 389
Re: Daniel Abraham

Leviathan Wakes was pretty awesome. I'll definitely be reading Caliban's War when it comes out. Sort of reminded me of Halo: The Cole Protocol for some reason though.
Galacticdefender is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd April 2012, 12:19 AM   #12 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
williamjm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Cambridgeshire
Posts: 445
Re: Daniel Abraham

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moggle View Post
Books written until his real name and "Hanover" are virtually all under 4. He seems to range somewhere from the mid to high 3s with the occasional 4 for a sequel. This to me is not good. It tells me that the writer is consistently mediocre, at least as a fantasy writer.
I'm doubtful about the concept of using Goodreads ratings as a measure of how good an author is. Sorting my books by average rating reveals some of the greatest works of SF are ranked lower than 4, such as Dune, Childhood's End, I Am Legend, River of Gods or Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell. The people of Goodreads have apparently decided that Daniel Abraham has written at least three books better than Dune.

I don't think their ratings are entirely useless, but I wouldn't put too much faith in them either.
williamjm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd June 2012, 09:10 PM   #13 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Connavar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Sweden
Posts: 7,996
Re: Daniel Abraham

Im wondering about Leviathan Wakes book of his ? It is a entertaining first book in Space Opera series ? I read many serious SF books that make me think but i also want more new entertaining that doesnt have to be more than that.
Connavar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th June 2012, 02:59 AM   #14 (permalink)
Believer in flawed heroes
 
Coragem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Yorkshire
Posts: 459
Re: Daniel Abraham

Quote:
Originally Posted by Connavar View Post
Im wondering about Leviathan Wakes book of his ? It is a entertaining first book in Space Opera series ? I read many serious SF books that make me think but i also want more new entertaining that doesnt have to be more than that.
I'm going to read Leviathan Wakes very soon, and I'm confident that it'll be good. Everything I hear is very positive indeed. E.g.:

http://fantasyhotlist.blogspot.co.uk...han-wakes.html

My wife has just read the Long Price and she has been highly impressed.

Coragem.
Coragem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 4th June 2012, 01:04 PM   #15 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Alabama
Posts: 18
Re: Daniel Abraham

All I've read of Abraham's is Leviathan Wakes, which I liked quite a bit. I wouldn't mind trying on some of his fantasy works on for size.
Mr. Aware Eagle is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:44 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.