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| Bearly Believable Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: UK: ENGLAND:
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| In trying to find out what happened regarding the recent solar storm, I read this article in the Grauniad. The article contained this paragraph (whose main points were repeated in the graphics here): Quote:
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| Benevolent Galaxy Being Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Illinois
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| Re: This Week's Solar Storm Solar flares happen every eleven years, but Scientists years ago warned that this time (in 2012) Earth may be hit hard enough to disable satellites and power grids. I was waiting for this to happen, and now it's starting. |
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| Cave Painter Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Massachusetts
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| Re: This Week's Solar Storm Quote:
(The only way I can imagine a CME "intensifying" is through some sort of electrical focusing of the wave. I've read some layman's material on Hannes Alfvén, a physicist who described electrical currents in space, but I can't claim to truly understand his work.) | |
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| Bearly Believable Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: UK: ENGLAND:
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| Re: This Week's Solar Storm You may be right - that the storm intensifies over time** - but that isn't at all what the quoted words say*** (or imply). (I suspect this is another example of an article's author not really knowing what they're talking about and in producing a precis of what they've been told, they've garbled the message.) ** - As a layperson, I'd expect the output to grow (in mass and/or energy) to a peak, then fall away to nothing. *** - "storm grows in intensity as it speeds outward from the sun." |
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| Cave Painter Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Massachusetts
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| Re: This Week's Solar Storm Maybe there is some of that Alfvén plasma physics going on. I know that his work was ridiculed when it was first published. And although not everything has held up, I understand that much of it is now accepted. Perhaps that CME is winding up like a rope and getting ready to snap the Earth like a bullwhip as it rumbles by. So really—how long before the technology exists to control the magnetic field lines so that auroras can be used for product placement? That would be one heckuva big "neon" sign. Eat at Joe's |
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| Mad Mountain Man | Re: This Week's Solar Storm I think it may be something along those lines Metryq. The storms are not just particles but also "bubbles" of twisted magnetic fields. That is how they start as solar flares and then sometimes (not always) the flare "snaps" it's connection from the sun's atmosphere and hurtles off into space. Apparently if it goes North of the ecliptic the orientation of our magnetosphere gives us excellent protection but if it breaks off headed south of the eclitptic then we are just "an open door". So he says having just watched Tuesday's Horizon that was on solar storms. And very interesting it was too, if a little melodramatic. Another interesting thing is that the dangers to satellites are not just electrical. It seems that the storms also heat the atmosphere which then expands making more gas move up higer in the atmosphere. This makes the upper atmosphere that the low orbit satellites travel through more dense slowing their orbits and potentially even bringing the satellite down. They implied that this effect was the final killer for the old Sky Lab. One of the reasons they are so desperate to be able to predict these storm well ahead of time is so they can get the satellites ready to manoeuvre ahead of time. |
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| Re: This Week's Solar Storm Quote:
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| Speaker to Cats Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK: ENGLAND:
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| Re: This Week's Solar Storm Never mind the Grauniad's guff, a reputable report is at... http://www.spaceweather.com/ That's also worth watching for the steadily growing list of Potentially Hazardous Asteroids and their miss distances... |
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