2.10: The Walking Dead - 18 Miles Out

[ctg]

That was one of the better episodes, if not the best that we've seen in the second season, with only the pilot sitting on the top. The only minus I'd give is the beginning scene as the tension was building up quite nicely from the previous episode and I truly believe they could have cut it out. Then again, I don't know what I would have added - to the forty five seconds; maybe burned more film on the stiff one*.

Don't know. It's so hard to say.

But what I can say is that the new writing team are really starting to hit the vein, and what is flowing out is brilliant drama on such a tension. I'm in love - probably as much as I am with the Sherlock.

They don't need to show more of the characters and in fact, less they were showing, more interesting it started to get. And what they were showing was two sides that aren't so black and white.

What is right and what is wrong in that world?

To me it isn't that easy and neither that is to any characters. Not even if count in Shane, and I think that is what is what Shane was thinking at the end, when he watched that geezer crossing the rye field.

Life isn't easy.


* fear not, there's plenty of them in this one and when I say plenty, I mean LOTS.


PS. I was wrong about Hershel's daughter.

[Huttman]

I thought it interesting why they showed that walker in the field going and coming back to the farm. It symbolized something, I'm just not sure what. I found it interesting also that this was the first time they did not show some of the characters in the show. Maybe the story was too big for 42+ minutes of airtime and at least they mentioned those characters. I like how Rick confronted Shane right off the bat. It seemed like it was going well at first...it seemed like it really sunk in Shane's head and heart, letting what happened to Otis finally off his chest. Great episode.

[Connavar]

I thought it was interesting ep but it had flaws at times. I like how Rick acted like he was the leader, showing Shane how to kill zombies with a knife.

The scenes with Rick and Shane was interesting. The only weak part was at the end when Rick left Shane for dead and then came back to save.

We all know they would never dare to kill Shane this early. He is the bad guy of the series so far. They need to prolong his you guys are too good, naive for this world stuff....

[ctg]

I wouldn't say as Shane's ditching was wrong, but interestingly made as it made the watchers to think that Rick made his decision. However, I think it could have been done a bit differently, just not much ... and I wonder if Rick could've been able to fire-bomb the bus attacking horde.

[Connavar]

Originally Posted by ctg

I wouldn't say as Shane's ditching was wrong, but interestingly made as it made the watchers to think that Rick made his decision. However, I think it could have been done a bit differently, just not much ... and I wonder if Rick could've been able to fire-bomb the bus attacking horde.

It was too predictable how they handled it, it ruined alittle of the tension of the thing between Rick and Shane. Let them fight but dont try to trick us by thinking Shane will die this early. Before the Governor and other real bad guys this uber slow tv show needs Shane in a way Kirkman writing never did.

Im not comparing to the comic version, i just dont like how predictable they handle Shane sometimes. Better writing this season but sometimes....

[ctg]

I know, but I'd like to think that Shane's growing in every episode. I want to believe that Rick gave him a heads up, when he allowed Shane to think that he's leaving. I'd have thought that way, but I do admit that it would have been intriguing, if they would have allowed Shane to figure his own way out - since he already so much wanted it.

[Connavar]

Originally Posted by ctg

I know, but I'd like to think that Shane's growing in every episode. I want to believe that Rick gave him a heads up, when he allowed Shane to think that he's leaving. I'd have thought that way, but I do admit that it would have been intriguing, if they would have allowed Shane to figure his own way out - since he already so much wanted it.

I dont mind what they did Shane last ep when it came to building his character. Better than writing like dangerous gun nut like they did before.

Still i hope they deal with him permanently later on. You cant have two cops when they leave the farm deal with dangerous people,walkers. They need only one Sheriff for it there to be a danger. Right now i enjoy seeing the story, overall how they handle Rick and Shane.

[ctg]

Originally Posted by Connavar

I dont mind what they did Shane last ep when it came to building his character. Better than writing like dangerous gun nut like they did before.

Still i hope they deal with him permanently later on. You cant have two cops when they leave the farm deal with dangerous people,walkers. They need only one Sheriff for it there to be a danger. Right now i enjoy seeing the story, overall how they handle Rick and Shane.

I wouldn't go as far as saying Shane's a sheriff or even a copper even though he might be wearing an uniform. I'd go as far as to say he stopped being one of them quite some time ago. And I would also say that Shane's day aren't numbered unless he was thinking seriously about ditching the group and going in his own way.

[Connavar]

Originally Posted by ctg

I wouldn't go as far as saying Shane's a sheriff or even a copper even though he might be wearing an uniform. I'd go as far as to say he stopped being one of them quite some time ago. And I would also say that Shane's day aren't numbered unless he was thinking seriously about ditching the group and going in his own way.

By Sheriff i meant he and Rick are experienced lawmen which makes them leaders, best with guns, dealing with danger. There is not as much reason to be scared when the sheep has two shepherds' so to speak.

I think they will make him dangerous and kill him or make him ditch the group.

I know for tension sake the prison arc, the governor cant have both Rick and Shane. It can be alot different from comic series but the reason Shane is written as dangerous, less saner version of Rick is to foreshadow he wont permanently stay with the group.

The actor has also signed for a summer/fall pilot i read in Tv.com. Maybe he knows something about his character we dont know in the tv show near future.

[ctg]

Originally Posted by Connavar

The actor has also signed for a summer/fall pilot i read in Tv.com. Maybe he knows something about his character we dont know in the tv show near future.

I know that he knows, and he has been very deliberately vague on that point. The thing is however that modern times allow you to appear in more than few regular shows during the year, as they might not all be shooting at the same time. I dread to think about some of the thing I've seen on who's going and who's staying, and as far as I've seen Shane might not be among them. In fact, the group might completely split up at the end of the season.

[Connavar]

Originally Posted by ctg

I know that he knows, and he has been very deliberately vague on that point. The thing is however that modern times allow you to appear in more than few regular shows during the year, as they might not all be shooting at the same time. I dread to think about some of the thing I've seen on who's going and who's staying, and as far as I've seen Shane might not be among them. In fact, the group might completely split up at the end of the season.

I hope the group split or something that surprises us comics fans too. Shane, Andrea group trying to survive on their own and Rick, the people who trust him more than Shane.

Thats actually fascinating storyline there.

Right now the mistake of making Shane the leader, the hardcore,taking tough decisions i see many comments of tv fans who think Rick is getting the leader role just because he is the star. The writers have to deal Shane part of the story well and not alienate the fans of Shane.

Shane has taken the dangerous, tough leader role Rick had in the comic.

[ctg]

It is as if Kirkman is reading these comments as here he talks about Shane:

Shane is experiencing series of moments that are making him question his stance on things. When Shane couldn't gun Sophia down but Rick could, that's a bit of evidence that Shane is wrong and that Rick is the right guy to be leading this group. This is another example of that. It's really going to be driving Shane crazy — the fact that he was pretty much read his rights and needed Rick to come save him and Rick came and did that. That's going to eat away at the guy and whether or not that causes him to calm down on his position and realize that Rick is the right guy for the job, or whether that infuriates him to a higher degree and causes him to do more things to undermine Rick … we'll just have to wait and see.

Now that they know Randall can't be completely trusted, how will Rick and Shane move forward when considering his fate?

That's something we're going to be dealing with in our very next episode back: just how much of a threat this guy is and what they're going to do with him. While he did drive the car, they saved him as much as he saved them, if not more so. I don't think he would have been able to make it out of there alive. Them putting him back in the trunk, they clearly don't trust the guy to drive back all the way with him. The guy's a prisoner now and they have to figure out what they're going to do with him.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...les-out-295151

[Connavar]

As long they dont slow down the pace like first season. New things must happen soon. Heh latest Spiderman comic joked about "They are still in Herschel's farm" when he was catching up another hero on tv of the last season.

[svalbard]

Hi,

Can you put a spoiler alert on the thread if you are going to talk about the comic books. I am a big fan of the tv show and love the direction the Rick and Shane story is going. I also enjoy reading these threads, but not at the expense of learning about future plot lines.

[Connavar]

Originally Posted by svalbard

Hi,

Can you put a spoiler alert on the thread if you are going to talk about the comic books. I am a big fan of the tv show and love the direction the Rick and Shane story is going. I also enjoy reading these threads, but not at the expense of learning about future plot lines.

You dont have to worry about spoilers from the comics from me anymore. I dont know more than you about future plot lines. I know only one bad guy they have already picked an actor for and i wont use his name again.

The rest we are talking about are the tv show because they have changed so much that isnt even remotely like the comic. Shane and other changes have nothing to do with the comics. We only compare the pace and not the plot lines. We are guessing what might happen in tv show. Not what has already happened in the comics and is coming soon in tv show.

Hard to spoil the comics when several of the main characters exist only in the TV show.