Go Back   Science Fiction Fantasy Chronicles: forums > Film & TV > Film > General Film Discussion

General Film Discussion For discussing the silver screen and the DVD.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old 28th December 2011, 06:53 PM   #31 (permalink)
persimmons
 
The Spurring Platty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Alabama
Posts: 184
Re: ACTORS mismatched to roles

Quote:
Originally Posted by springs1971 View Post
another Brosnan to make you smile: Mamma Mia, has anyone heard his singing?
I loves me some Abba, but that made me cringe.

I'll see your Brosnan in Mama Mia and raise you one Roger Moore in Boat Trip.
The Spurring Platty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th December 2011, 06:54 PM   #32 (permalink)
Destroyer of Words
 
Interference's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Ireland
Posts: 2,575
Blog Entries: 11
Re: ACTORS mismatched to roles

Quote:
Originally Posted by J-Sun View Post
.... but you can never say Lazenby/OHMSS sucked too many times.
Slightly amusing poiint about that film is that George Baker's voice played Bond for half of it, as well Makes one wonder if the producers didn't end up thinking it would be easier to dub a good actor on a walking tree than to try and get Lazenby to act.
Interference is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th December 2011, 06:56 PM   #33 (permalink)
Dramatically tremendous
 
springs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Antrim
Posts: 4,715
Blog Entries: 85
Re: ACTORS mismatched to roles

Quote:
Originally Posted by Interference View Post
Slightly amusing poiint about that film is that George Baker's voice played Bond for half of it, as well Makes one wonder if the producers didn't end up thinking it would be easier to dub a good actor on a walking tree than to try and get Lazenby to act.
Lazenbury acted? In which scene?
springs is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 28th December 2011, 07:04 PM   #34 (permalink)
Destroyer of Words
 
Interference's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Ireland
Posts: 2,575
Blog Entries: 11
Re: ACTORS mismatched to roles

The scene with Diana Rigg, right at the end, when he cries -- Ms Rigg had been eating onions, though

The annoying thing is that OHMSS is a key story in the Bond mythos and to have it made so, as is generally accepted, deplorably means it's ripe for re-making, I think.

Oh, and it had the best title song of the entire series (We Have All The Time In The World).
Interference is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th December 2011, 07:05 PM   #35 (permalink)
Dramatically tremendous
 
springs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Antrim
Posts: 4,715
Blog Entries: 85
Re: ACTORS mismatched to roles

Duranie here; view to a kill was my fav (when I was 16, I've moved on since)
springs is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 28th December 2011, 07:12 PM   #36 (permalink)
Destroyer of Words
 
Interference's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Ireland
Posts: 2,575
Blog Entries: 11
Re: ACTORS mismatched to roles

One thing I am very glad about is that though John Barry stopped doing them, and has since died, hiring David Arnold was the perfect alternative. There's respect for the genre in his soundtracks where a lesser composer might have been tempted to lampoon it.

Apparently Barry and Duran (or possibly Duran, not sure which of them it was ) did a lot of fighting, as Le Bon later said, "over black notes"
Interference is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th December 2011, 08:07 PM   #37 (permalink)
Licensed operator
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 28
Re: ACTORS mismatched to roles

I've just thought of another: Rutger Hauer as Roy Baty in Blade Runner. A fine performance by an actor physically miscast according to the character description present in the novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. It says of Roy when he first appears in the story that he was:
Quote:
"...larger, with intelligent eyes but flat, Mongolian features which gave him a brutal look." (end of Chapter 13)
Hauer: Larger, yes, intelligent eyes, yes, brutal, yes, Mongolian features, er...

Another problem comes with the casting of Pris (Stratton) and Rachael Rosen. In the novel both of these women androids are the same model and therefore physically identical in appearance (although they wear their hair differently). The movie has two completely dissimilar actresses play the pair. It actually forms an important part of the story as well since it causes Deckard discomfort to retire an andy who resembles one for whom he has developed feelings:

Quote:
'The last goddamn Nexus-6 type,' Rachael said, enunciating with effort, 'is the same type as I am. She stared down at the bedspread, found a thread, and began rolling it into a pellet. 'Didn't you notice the description? It's of me, too. She may wear her hair differently and dress differently - she may even have bought a wig. But when you see her you'll know what I mean.' She laughed sardonically. 'It's a good thing the association admitted I'm an andy; otherwise you'd probably have gone mad when you caught sight of Pris Stratton. Or thought she was me.' (Chapter 16)
Ray Pullar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th December 2011, 08:37 PM   #38 (permalink)
Comment Giver
 
Perpetual Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Devon
Posts: 3,656
Blog Entries: 25
Re: ACTORS mismatched to roles

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffbert View Post
I was once a comic collector, but realized I was addicted to it & stopped reading comic books altogether. If Marvel has forgotten about the HOWLERS, & made a new version of Fury, then o.k., my bad.

Jackson has quite a wide range of roles, from badass Fury to voicing the ass-kisser in AFROSAMURAI.

Of comics, I now read only manga.


too few smilies from which to choose.
There are two universes running concurrently so we can have either the classic or ultimate Fury. Obviously the film makers liked the idea of the Samuel L Jackson Fury - he fit the role!

I hope it was not to hard when you gave up comics - I've just done the same thing for similar reasons, and am not missing them. Yet.
Perpetual Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th December 2011, 09:04 PM   #39 (permalink)
Cave Painter
 
Metryq's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 940
Re: ACTORS mismatched to roles

Quote:
Originally Posted by Interference View Post
You haven't seen OHMSS yet, then
Not to be confused with Ohm's Law or OMS engines!

Actually, I have seen OHMSS, again just recently, too. While the script was terribly dry and Lazenby's acting hardly stellar, Brosnan is still worse. He delivers half his lines as though he were sitting on a broom handle. (I dunno, maybe that's his "tough guy" voice.) Maybe we should give the much-maligned Keanu a shot at playing Bond?

There are many actors who only "play themselves." This doesn't stop them from being popular in Hollywood and doing lots of films, but in each role, they are exactly the same. A really good actor delivers a character so well that one might not recognize him, even when he is not wearing extensive makeup and appliances. Such metamorphs are never mis-matched because they can act.
Metryq is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th December 2011, 09:24 PM   #40 (permalink)
П
 
Abernovo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Bulgaria
Posts: 1,693
Blog Entries: 2
Re: ACTORS mismatched to roles

Quote:
Originally Posted by Metryq View Post
There are many actors who only "play themselves." This doesn't stop them from being popular in Hollywood and doing lots of films, but in each role, they are exactly the same.
Oh dear, you just gave me an image of John Wayne as a Roman centurion in The Greatest Story Ever Told. I try not to mock Biblical films as the content is held literally sacred by many people, but that was a truly awful film and Mr Wayne's brief performance?

I have no words.
Abernovo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th December 2011, 10:23 PM   #41 (permalink)
Luna tick
 
Moonbat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Devon
Posts: 1,797
Blog Entries: 1
Re: ACTORS mismatched to roles

Not quite on topic, but Brosnan in live wire has one of the campest bad guys ever

Quote:
Mr O'Neil!
Moonbat is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 28th December 2011, 10:45 PM   #42 (permalink)
Destroyer of Words
 
Interference's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Ireland
Posts: 2,575
Blog Entries: 11
Re: ACTORS mismatched to roles

If anyone would like to see the true meaning of Acting, get a copy of Raise the Titanic, fast forward to the scene where the Alec Guinness is reminiscing about the sinking and watch his eyes. I've never seen a better film performance before or since.

Now throw away the rest of the film
Interference is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th December 2011, 11:42 PM   #43 (permalink)
Dehhh de de deh
 
alchemist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Ireland
Posts: 2,408
Blog Entries: 2
Re: ACTORS mismatched to roles

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abernovo View Post
...but that was a truly awful film and Mr Wayne's brief performance?...
Surely you didn't mean to refer to the apocryphal story of Mr Wayne in the film?

JW: "Truly he was the son of God."
Director: "It needs more awe, Mr Wayne."
JW: "Aw, truly he was the son of God."
alchemist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th December 2011, 09:51 AM   #44 (permalink)
П
 
Abernovo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Bulgaria
Posts: 1,693
Blog Entries: 2
Re: ACTORS mismatched to roles

Yes, alchemist, I had heard that one. I've also been told a joke regarding that movie by a vicar, which I'm not going to repeat for fear of offending others (and the fear of being struck by random lightning).

Perhaps an embarrassing admission, but I do actually like a couple of Wayne's other films. No great actor, but in his niche, he could be effective. At least he went out on a decent movie, The Shootist.
Abernovo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th December 2011, 04:37 PM   #45 (permalink)
Destroyer of Words
 
Interference's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Ireland
Posts: 2,575
Blog Entries: 11
Re: ACTORS mismatched to roles

The Shootist, The Searchers and True Grit can dare to be called "great films". Others were entertaining enough, Cheyenne Autumn being the cream of those, and Wayne was big enough to fill the landscapes he rode through.

Of the few "modern day" films he made, there aren't many you wouldn't be tempted to call dire. Talk about mis-casting
Interference is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.