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25th November 2011, 07:50 AM
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| Fantastical historian  Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridgeshire
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| Re: Harry Potter is "inadvertently" racist other mental claims Why is it disappointing? Do you think she should have said something in the books about it, or are you disappointed to discover that he's gay? |
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25th November 2011, 07:53 AM
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| Sith Lord  Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: USA:
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| Re: Harry Potter is "inadvertently" racist other mental claims I'm disappointed that she would say that. I don't consider it any more canon than George Lucas calling Yoda's species "a frog". She herself said it was irrelevant. |
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25th November 2011, 03:10 PM
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| Destroyer of Words  | Re: Harry Potter is "inadvertently" racist other mental claims Quote:
An approximate summary might be that there is One True Way and any other way must come from Satan. Teaching children that there's a school where you can learn this spell-casting stuff might actually encourage children to learn this, and other, stuff. Yeah, that's a bad thing if the children in question grow up with an uncertain moral fortitude. But to discourage wonder and thought is wrong, in my view, and also, if I read him correctly, in the Christ's view. And that doesn't take into account that "satan" is a concept, not a person, meaning (approximately) "choice" (which might be called "uncertainty", particularly in cases of moral fortitude) and is intended as a reference to the conflict we have with ourselves before deciding how to behave, usually under extreme circumstances or duress. Satan's overt characterisation in Job and in the Temptation scene are the basis for most people imagining it as a Being (I'm side-stepping what I think of as the drug-addled portrayal by John in Revelations). ******************************************* Cowboy and Indian films/books were racist (wittingly or not) so Westerns had to go out of fashion. Now we have Humans and Aliens instead, which is ok cos Aliens aren't real. When we watch the Alien series or War Of The Worlds or (gawd help us) Starship Troopers and Independence Day, we're allowed to revel in their obliteration, and our genocidal tendencies are sated. I don't know HP - half-watched one film, never read the books - but I doubt the "racism" is much more horrific in them than in the the average space shoot-em-up, which we all, of course, love. ******************************************* Famous gay couples in fiction: Batman and Robin, Holmes and Watson, Wilson and Crick, Morecambe and Wise, Hope and Crosby, good gawd, y'all, does it matter? If it isn't on the page, then it's your imagination (literally) - and that goes for authors' as well. I suspect that Ms Rowling has an active fantasy life that she hasn't yet published. So do we all. Personally, I like when ladies kiss.  Last edited by Interference; 25th November 2011 at 03:43 PM. | |
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27th November 2011, 06:17 AM
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| Sith Lord Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: USA:
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| Re: Harry Potter is "inadvertently" racist other mental claims Did you just imply that J.K. Rowling "fantasizes" about old gay wizards? Also, those you list could be proven false, Batman, Robin, Holmes, and Watson all have had relationships with women. |
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28th November 2011, 04:56 AM
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| Laundress Extraordinaire  | Re: Harry Potter is "inadvertently" racist other mental claims Yeah, because he didnt die or because he came back from the dead. But they had Dumbledore as God and Serious as one of the disciples I forget which. I suppose its a complement to the way she promotes what is good in human nature, but I just cant see the parallels. |
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