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Old 17th April 2012, 03:37 AM   #1441 (permalink)
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Yes, I'd have a problem with it.

If english isn't the language spoken in the character's culture then it's not what he'd speak unless he learnt it somehow. Of course, you'd still write his dialogue in english, because otherwise the reader wouldn't understand what he is saying. But the other characters around him won't be able to, unless of course they know his language and their own, but then it's irrelevant what language he speaks.

I'd suggest making it that not everyone can understand him. Also, when he features in a scene that is from another character's PoV, you could make his dialogue rough, like how he would actually sound to other people, because the PoV character would have trouble understanding him.
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Old 17th April 2012, 04:35 AM   #1442 (permalink)
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If this is meant to be a world where the British Empire covers much of the globe, then if he is a British Subject (however unwilling), he could speak at least some English.

If the Aztecs are the other super power, then a village boy is unlikely to speak anything but his native tongue.
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Old 17th April 2012, 02:10 PM   #1443 (permalink)
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Both countries have different languages but have bordered each other for a few centuries. When i was going to school in southern Arizona I had to take Spanish class every year, would to make sense to have the same for the educated kid? Have home take the a tec language?
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Old 17th April 2012, 04:28 PM   #1444 (permalink)
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Don't mind the last sentence/question I'm posting from my iphone
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Old 17th April 2012, 09:18 PM   #1445 (permalink)
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If the villiage kid has gone to school and learnt english in the process then it's fine, but that brings up more things to think about. Because by there being schools means the education level of the Aztec culture would likely be equal to the english one, and would influence the way they live their lives. What I mean is, if they are incorporating english into their teaching, then what about over parts of english culture?
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Old 17th April 2012, 11:51 PM   #1446 (permalink)
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figured a good solution that fits the story well, thanks for all the help.
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Old 17th April 2012, 11:53 PM   #1447 (permalink)
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Is the following paragraph grammatically correct? It seems to jar with me, but I can't quite put my finger on why. I think it's due to lack of sleep. Any help would be appreciated.


The throne room, once again, erupted with the gasps of a hundred Elves. Titania gripped the arms of her wicker throne tightly, her eyes so wide they looked ready to burst from her skull at any given second, her entire body trembling with rage.


Or would this be better?



The throne room, once again, erupted with the gasps of a hundred Elves. Titania gripped the arms of her wicker throne tightly, her eyes so wide they looked ready to burst from her skull at any given second; her entire body trembled with rage.


Any alternative suggestions would be more than welcome.
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Old 18th April 2012, 03:04 AM   #1448 (permalink)
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I trip on "once again" how necessary is it? I would think that you wouldnt need to tell us that it was happening again since you're in the middle of showing us it is happening again. so it sounds almost like an apology for not having some other reaction from the room.
like the eyes and the trembling they really drive home the emotive quality you seem to be driving at. I can imagine her going pale and chocking on what she wants to say she is so mad.
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Old 18th April 2012, 04:39 AM   #1449 (permalink)
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The throne room, once again, erupted with the gasps of a hundred Elves. Titania gripped the arms of her wicker throne tightly, her eyes so wide they looked ready to burst from her skull at any given second, her entire body trembling with rage.
Hope is right, the once again should go imo. I also think you're running your sentence on too long.

You asked for examples of alternatives, so this is a quick one I did up - could be rubbish.

The throne room erupted with the gasps of a hundred elves. Titania gripped the arms of her wicker throne as her body trembled, and her eyes drew so wide they looked ready to burst from her skull at any given second.

You don't really need to say tightly either, as it is kind of implied in 'gripped'. You don't necessarily need 'at any given second' either.
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Old 18th April 2012, 04:56 AM   #1450 (permalink)
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I'd have just shifted the "Once again..." to the beginning of the sentence, to avoid breaking into the action:

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Once again, the throne room erupted with the gasps of a hundred Elves...
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oh yes that's nice, gives the lead in of "once again" and then has all the impact of unbroken action.
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Scott, I imagine it's the trembling/trembled bit that was worrying you. Both are grammatically correct, but for my taste the first is better. If you go with the second, on the one hand I don't think the semi-colon is strong enough and I'd go with a full stop, but (contrariwise) to me the distancing effect of the pause is then far too great and too much emphasis is placed on the original sub-clause by having it as a complete short sentence. Stick with the first version.
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Old 19th April 2012, 03:36 PM   #1453 (permalink)
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She realised that was incredibly hungry, the smell of roasted meats drifting in from outside.

or

The smell of roasted meats drifted in from outside, and she realised she was incredibly hungry.

I'm at a crossroads...
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Old 19th April 2012, 03:41 PM   #1454 (permalink)
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It has to be no. 2. The sequence is wrong in no. 1, unless these two things coincidentally happened at the same time. Even then, I'd go for 2.
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Old 19th April 2012, 03:51 PM   #1455 (permalink)
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Re: Quick Fire Questions (A Place to Ask and Answer)

Allmywires,

Is that a typo in the first sentence? As is doesn't quite make sense. Unless you perhaps want smells to have a sense of hunger. (Should it be She realised she was - as per the second sentence.)

I much prefer the cause and effect of the second one anyway.

Perhaps if you wanted it the other way around, she felt hunger then noticed the smell of roasted meats - so telling us that she was at first unaware of the smell, that prompted her to salivate? (Don't know if that adds anything...)
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