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Old 24th June 2011, 03:04 PM   #16 (permalink)
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So, here's a previous thread I recently re-discovered on this same subject as ADWD.

A Dance With Dragons: Speculation?
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Old 5th July 2011, 05:48 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Hmmm interesting - I'm lacking any real thoughts myself, however;

Osha and Rikkon and Maege et al. will find Howland Reed - my skin is positively goosed with pimples.

Bran will find Benjen and the three eyed crow and possibly the secret of something else. I've a feeling some.. thing/people will end up joining him on his quest and he heads south again to try to save Jon.
Ayra... I'm intrigued - not too sure but I presume she becomes a faceless woman at some point.
I am pretty sure Benjen is the three eyed crow. Night's watchmen are crows, and it seems that, if being a warg is in the stark's blood, then it is perfectly reasonable for Benjen to be a warg as well, and perhaps that is why he chose to go to the wall in the first place.

Also, I see Hodor as becoming much more of a badass. It seems somewhat unlike GRRM to have Hodor there simply to carry Bran and be comic relief. I I think Bran will learn to use his warg powers to possess Hodor, and use him to fight. A lot of roads have led to this. Hodor has been practicing with a longsword (although he just whacks at trees). Also, we have seen Bran momentarily possess Hodor in the past. We keep hearing about how Bran always wanted to be a knight. Hodor is simpleminded, so he is easier for Bran to Warg, and he is incredibly strong.

Bran's intelligence (Maester luwin often bran was too clever for his own good) and Hodor's strength may create a knight powerful enough to defeat the mountain in single, non poisoned combat. Too bad he is dead. Or is he?

Also, perhaps Benjen is Coldhands? It fits with his warg powers, and perhaps he was killed, and that is what happens when a warg is turned into a wight . . .a wightwarg, sounds cool

I also think that Daenerys will be making a journey to old Valyria, and I imagine that she will uncover some secrets about the creation of Valyrian steel and dragonglass, since these lost arts have been incresingly mentioned in the series, and they will be necessary for the inevitable battle with the others. Who better to save the day then Dany with her army of unsullied all wielding valyrian steel and dragonglass?

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Victarion's ships will bring Dani to Westeros

Sam will learn more of the Others and the Children in his studies, maybe even a way to defeat the others, at some point I see making some connection and hightailing back to the wall, but will he be in time? Maybe his story is linked with Arya and he returns with her in tow?

Bran steps into his powers and learns to warg properly with Hodor

I still think the wall will fall, some union with the wildlings may happen

Is Davos really dead?

The remnants of Robb's army will find the Crannogmen, they may already have as the crannogs are harrying the Lions

Maybe Mel will forsake Stannis to support the stronger Jon? I think Stannis may die in the next book
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Just read an article with some info about A Dance With Dragons. Contains mild spoilers. (I'd say they were more teasers than out and out spoilers.) Read it here:

http://shelf-life.ew.com/2011/07/06/dance-with-dragons/

VERY MILD SPOILERS/TEASERS AHEAD. Go away if you don't want to read them

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From the article:

Are there any huge shocks?
That would be a “Yes.” One scene in particular will haunt you.


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plus one character returns unexpectedly and that story just might be the strongest (and most heartbreaking) in the bunch.

Was the consensus vote that the character coming back was most likely to be Theon? To be honest, I don't much like Theon and don't know that I'd be heart-broken or haunted if he dies in the book (assuming that the "haunting" scene and the "heart-breaking" one are the same. Hmmm, maybe the haunting is literal, in that Benjen's deceased and turned into a wight?

What does everyone else make of this?

Can't wait! Can't wait! Can't wait! Can't wait! Can't wait! Can't wait! Can't wait!
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plus one character returns unexpectedly and that story just might be the strongest (and most heartbreaking) in the bunch.
Please be Renly, please be Renly, please be Renly!

I can hope, right?
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could also be Gregorstein?
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With the next book almost coming out i though it might be fun as to speculate at what events you believe will come to pass in the next book.
Excellent, Kiwi.

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I've always thought that the wall MUST fall at some point in the series.
Don't be so pessimistic. It's not your style.... err, sorry, it is your style.

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Theon - Will work with the fake Arya (Jeyne Seymore) and escape his captors
You mean Jeyne Poole posing as Arya Stark. I doubt she'll be played by Jane Seymour.

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We will find out what Rheagar's relationship with Lyanna is from the perspective of BFS (told to Dany) and other internal workings during the Mad kings reign.
We can only hope...

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Also, I see Hodor as becoming much more of a badass.
I beg to differ, Jaqen. I think Hodor has more of a chance of being either baby Aegon in disguise or one of Robert's bastards than learning how to become Bran's new body. When Bran slips into Summer, Summer is in full control. The bottom line is that Summer posseses a higher intelligence than Hodor. Hodor's thoughts are too primitive for Bran to comprehend.

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I also think that Daenerys will be making a journey to old Valyria, and I imagine that she will uncover some secrets about the creation of Valyrian steel and dragonglass, since these lost arts have been incresingly mentioned in the series, and they will be necessary for the inevitable battle with the others. Who better to save the day then Dany with her army of unsullied all wielding valyrian steel and dragonglass?
I had not thought of arming the Unsullied with Valyrian steel and dragonglass. I'd bet that valyrian steel is rarer in post-apocalyptic Valyria than in Westeros. But as for obsidian...?
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Please be Renly, please be Renly, please be Renly!

I can hope, right?
LOL, I was wishing that too!
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Please be Renly, please be Renly, please be Renly!

I can hope, right?
We know that Theon is one character that returns in a POV.

We also know that an entirely new character gets a POV.

Finally, GRRM has said that there will be no POV from an undead or dead character, so forget Renly, Stoneheart, etc.
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TK-421, You've destroyed all my hope, optimism and everything that's good in the world
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Did I say anything about Renly being a POV character?
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