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| charming date rapist Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vatican City
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| The ending of consider phlebas - Caution! Spoilers! i haven't read it for quite some time, but what exactly happened at the end, horza somehow infused his mind into the ship's AI? or the mind transferred it there? and if you'd be so kind to remind me again why it was called consider phlebas, i remember no reference at all to anything or anyone named phlebas |
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| Cogito ergo doleo... Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southampton
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| re: The ending of consider phlebas - Caution! Spoilers! It's a quote from T. S. Eliot's poem The Waste Land. An article discussing the reasons for the title: Poetic Licence – Iain M. Banks' Consider Phlebas and T.S. Eliot's The Waste Land Fearful Symmetry |
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| |-O-| (-O-) |-O-| Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Essex
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| Re: The ending of consider phlebas - Caution! Spoilers! I always thought that the mind may have suffered from some sort of Stockholm syndrome. That it was so affected by the senselessness of the whole episode it sort of saw Bora Horza's point of view. |
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| Mad Mountain Man | Re: The ending of consider phlebas - Caution! Spoilers! Definite spoilers below with quotes from the end of the book, highlight to view. Horza definitely died. There was strange line towards the end where the mind began talking in a language unknown to Balveda: Quote:
I suppose that might suggest something. I would tend to go with Zaltys. In the Epiloge: Quote:
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| Left-minded Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tyne and Wear
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| Re: The ending of consider phlebas - Caution! Spoilers! I'd agree with Zaltys, too. The whole book is written in Horza's POV right to the end, and then we learn that the mind has taken his name. As this is more or less the only Culture novel written from the point of view of someone actively opposing the Culture, I've got to assume that this is a nod to the fact that the Mind thinks that Horza has a point - and, by definition, so does Banks. |
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