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Old 26th January 2012, 10:09 AM   #151 (permalink)
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By the time of the roof-top at Barts, the assumption is that SH knows he has to fake his own death/suicide to "beat" JM. We can assume he knows JM is likely to have a back-up plan: he's had snipers before. It would need to be a convincing death, because anything that was suspicious might indicate some trickery and thus the fall-back-plan being triggered. Hence the theatrics.
Fall-back plan? We all saw him falling forwards.


And as for a back up plan, the influence of gravity is likely to prove rather a problem with that....


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Old 26th January 2012, 02:30 PM   #152 (permalink)
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I don't want to get mawkish here, but the acting of emotion was convincing and moving from both Freeman and Cumberbatch. There will be no cheap score in the "final solution". Trust The Moffat.
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Old 26th January 2012, 11:12 PM   #153 (permalink)
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By the time of the roof-top at Barts, the assumption is that SH knows he has to fake his own death/suicide to "beat" JM. We can assume he knows JM is likely to have a back-up plan: he's had snipers before. It would need to be a convincing death, because anything that was suspicious might indicate some trickery and thus the fall-back-plan being triggered. Hence the theatrics.
I agree. I think this is why Sherlock picked 'The tallest building' as JM put it.
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Old 27th January 2012, 12:03 AM   #154 (permalink)
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Moriarty is dead - dead as dead can be, just like in the nbovels - but no doubt his shadow will live on...

Sherlock jumped off the building... Sherlock landed on the floor - eventually. We have several seconds between us seeing him fall and land. In this meantime we have Watson seeing his friend fall, then being clobbered by the cyclist before he can reach him.

The sniper is primarily watching Watson; he is also aware that Sherlock is about to jump, but his task is to take down his mark , and that will be his main focus. He will see the reaction of Watson as Sherlock leaps - what should have happened is that he would have followed Watson to the body; who would have found Holmes alive, and presumably then shot his target.

Before Watson could reach Holmes, he is knocked down, delaying him long enough for a medical team to rush out , grab Sherlock, and ferry him away. Watson thinks Holmes is dead , acts accordingly and thius convinces the hitmen that it is true.

Think about it; he chose a hospital to jump from - of all buildings, a hospital. Being as intelligent a man as he is , he would have calculated his height, weight, body angle as he fell and his position on landing to minimise any injuries. He knew that he would still have a good chance of being seriously injured, but calculated that the 1 or 2 minutes between him landing and being rushed into emergency surgery would be enough to save both his friends lives and his own.

Either that or he landed in the back of the rubbish truck and rolled out onto the floor - he certainly took his time waiting for the right moment to jump - firstly he positioned Watson where he could not see his landing spot, the truck was not there shortly before he jumped, and it drove away after he landed.

Either way, medical people were on the scene in literally seconds; even though it was outside a hospital, there's no way they could get there that quickly unless it was pre-arranged.

Typical Holmes - we are presented with all the facts , all the clues - and are left to work it out for ourselves, just like John does. Inevitably Sherlock will come along , point out all the obvious signs we should have looked for and the final solution will end up being.. elementary
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Old 27th January 2012, 12:55 PM   #155 (permalink)
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There is no realistic chance a man could jump off and survive that fall. He fell into the truck.
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Old 13th February 2012, 03:57 PM   #156 (permalink)
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I havent seen this series yet since i finally became DVD tv series viewer. I preordered this season DVD that comes out in March.

I just hope this season and next doesnt only deal with the most famous stories. There is a gold mine of alot good stories that isnt the big famous novels,short stories.
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Old 13th February 2012, 08:06 PM   #157 (permalink)
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Just watched the episode and haven't read all the preceding 11 pages of this thread so apologies if someone has already said this. I thought that JM had a doppelganger of Sherlock who he used in the kidnapping and that it was the doppelganger who jumped off the building. I have a vague recollection of the original stories that Sherlock and JM were observed by one of JM's men as they fought at the waterfall so there could be a parallel there. In the books Sherlock takes advantage of the fortunate opportunity to be able to fake his death and does so in different circumstances here.
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Old 13th March 2012, 02:07 PM   #158 (permalink)
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I watched 2 series in one day - that's the good part of being late. Absolutely loved everything and every minute of it! Does anyone have news about the next season? Are there any online petitions calling for Sherlock's prompt return and 12 episodes per season??
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Old 2nd May 2012, 09:16 PM   #159 (permalink)
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Holy Mary, Joseph, Jesus and the whole fam-damily!

Yeah, I am very late to the party. I knew I'd love this. Moffat, Gatiss, Doctor Who-alike and MARTIN FREEMAN (loved him forever) but I think sometimes I hold back because I'm worried that it won't be as good as I'm expecting. And my expectations would be very, very high.

I bought the first series for my housemate cos she loves it. We all watched episode one on Sunday. Then the second that same day. Now I've just watched the third.

I love it I love it I love it.

More than Doctor Who. Truly. The scripts feel much tighter, probably because there aren't as many, much more concentration on the plot to make it as intriguing and arresting as possible.

I could quite easily watch all three episodes again, right now.

Luckily there's series two! Although I feel like I want to sit and think about how the cliffhanger will be resolved. That's the fun bit! I'm a very active viewer, so this...this is just a perfect programme for me.

Bloody brilliant.
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Bloody brilliant.
My sentiments exactly. Some news about series 3:
http://www.craveonline.com/tv/articl...season-3-hints
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Sherlock co-creator Steven Moffat has been honoured with a writing prize at this year's Bafta Craft Awards. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18056286
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Holy Mary, Joseph, Jesus and the whole fam-damily!

Yeah, I am very late to the party. I knew I'd love this. Moffat, Gatiss, Doctor Who-alike and MARTIN FREEMAN (loved him forever) but I think sometimes I hold back because I'm worried that it won't be as good as I'm expecting. And my expectations would be very, very high.

I bought the first series for my housemate cos she loves it. We all watched episode one on Sunday. Then the second that same day. Now I've just watched the third.

I love it I love it I love it.

More than Doctor Who. Truly. The scripts feel much tighter, probably because there aren't as many, much more concentration on the plot to make it as intriguing and arresting as possible.

I could quite easily watch all three episodes again, right now.

Luckily there's series two! Although I feel like I want to sit and think about how the cliffhanger will be resolved. That's the fun bit! I'm a very active viewer, so this...this is just a perfect programme for me.

Bloody brilliant.
It is bloody brilliant, i felt like this last year when i first saw it. Are you Holmes literary fan or are you one of those regular casual Holmes fans of other mediums like tv,films ?

Whatever type of fan you are the series writing,acting is good enough for us all.
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Sherlock co-creator Steven Moffat has been honoured with a writing prize at this year's Bafta Craft Awards. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18056286
He bloody deserved it!

A Scandal in Belgravia has to be my favourite. I must have watched it 3 times already. In comparison, the Guy Ritchie's films are crass.
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I've only been watching this series for two weeks, thereabout, and I've watched almost all the episodes twice (except for the second one of the first series, I think that's been the weakest of the lot). Most recently is Hounds of Baskerville, which was brilliant, as usual. I watched it by myself, then the next day watched it with the housemates, and watching their reactions was brilliant. Really tense episode!

My favourite so far has been the final episode of the first series, though. I may have watched the last fifteen minutes, in the swimming pool, multiple times...

Because Moriarty has become one of my favourite characters, just from that scene. He is brilliant. So incredibly disconcerting. Everyone I talk to says how they expected someone older, more...in control, refined? Another Mycroft, in essence. So he just throws you right off.

And I only have the final episode to watch now (I actually know what happens at the end, but that doesn't spoil any of it) and I know it's pretty much all Moriarty -- and I. Can't. Wait.

(I also bought the box set off Amazon because I need all the DVDs in my hot little hands so I can watch them again and again and again...)
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I watched 2 series in one day - that's the good part of being late. Absolutely loved everything and every minute of it! Does anyone have news about the next season? Are there any online petitions calling for Sherlock's prompt return and 12 episodes per season??
Series 3 is happening but they won't do more than 3 episodes per season. But they are 90 minutes long so you're getting the equivalent of 12 episodes anyway.
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