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Old 27th June 2010, 09:00 AM   #421 (permalink)
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Re: FIFA WC Tipping comp

To put it in very simple terms I mean....

Pick winning side (don't care how they win) = 1 point

Pick correct winning scoreline in full time or after extra time = 3 points
*I think it is implied here that you by default would also have picked the correct wining team as I can see a technical loophole here otherwise and thus you get 4 points. HOWEVER, this does make the below DRAWN 3 points scoreline slightly less fair as you could still end up picking the incorrect winner after penalties and thus only get 3 points eventhough you had the correct drawn scoreline. Scoreline being the key thing here.

Pick correct drawn scoreline e.g. 1-1, 2-2 etc. = 3 points

Not perfect but perhaps an easier way to do things Dunno?

What do you think Wybern?
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Old 27th June 2010, 09:35 AM   #422 (permalink)
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Re: FIFA WC Tipping comp

Just to clarify, you can choose to put your tips in as one of two ways

just straight tipping the end result, or you can choose to tip that the game goes into extra time by doing so as such Team A 2-2 Team B (team B) dont put penalties at all.

Gollum for example, tonight you have tipped Germany 2-1. If they win 2-1 you get 4 points, if it draws 1-1 and then win in extra time like the (Ghana match did) and the end score was 2-1 then you get 4 points.

The maximum you can get for a match is 4 points.

The 3 point thing is a bonus if people choose to go out on a limb and state that the game will need to go to extra time and pick the correct result that caused it. - If you pick draw but dont correctly pick the score that put it into overtime you get nil points or 1 if you state the winner. If you tip, as Seph did, that a game would draw 1-1 and pick the correct winner in extra time then you get 4. For that game both Seph and Thaddeus (who tipped Ghana 2-1) got 4 points as even though they went a different route via tipping they both were correct.

It really isnt much different than before, it just has an extra option.



The new chart has 3 columns, first column is the points awarded in the first round of the game, the second is the points in the round of 16 - which is the current round and the last is the total, so people can see how they go in each stage.





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Old 27th June 2010, 10:03 AM   #423 (permalink)
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Re: FIFA WC Tipping comp

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Just to clarify, you can choose to put your tips in as one of two ways

just straight tipping the end result, or you can choose to tip that the game goes into extra time by doing so as such Team A 2-2 Team B (team B) dont put penalties at all.

Gollum for example, tonight you have tipped Germany 2-1. If they win 2-1 you get 4 points, if it draws 1-1 and then win in extra time like the (Ghana match did) and the end score was 2-1 then you get 4 points.

The maximum you can get for a match is 4 points.
Weel still not entirely convinced with this system i.e. don't agree with Seph getting the 4 points in the scenario you outline IMO you should pick the correct winning final scoreline (no penalty shootout occurs in this scenario) end of story (full time or extra time) but I'll go with what you suggest. For me, my tips will normally be team x 2 - team y 1 whether the result is in normal time or the extra time period and that is what I will mean i.e. no shootout in sight.

If I ever choose a penatly shootout scenario then I'll post the score that leads to the penalty shootout e.g. 2 - 2 and select the winner of the shootout. I would expect 4 points to be given if I was correct on all accounts.

I do like the way you now present the table Wybren. It is very clear...

Now off to get ready for the game.....
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Old 27th June 2010, 11:47 AM   #424 (permalink)
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If I ever choose a penatly shootout scenario then I'll post the score that leads to the penalty shootout e.g. 2 - 2 and select the winner of the shootout. I would expect 4 points to be given if I was correct on all accounts.
Well that is how you should post if you think that it will go into extra time.
ie Siberia 2-2 Antarctica ( Antarctica wins)

If you did predict how Seph did and get a similar result then 4 points is what you would get.
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Old 27th June 2010, 11:52 AM   #425 (permalink)
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Antarctica have a crap team this year, Siberia will roll them.
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Old 27th June 2010, 12:05 PM   #426 (permalink)
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Antarctica have a crap team this year, Siberia will roll them.
So bad in fact they've been "put on ice".......
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Old 27th June 2010, 12:14 PM   #427 (permalink)
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Well that is how you should post if you think that it will go into extra time.
ie Siberia 2-2 Antarctica ( Antarctica wins)

If you did predict how Seph did and get a similar result then 4 points is what you would get.
AH OK....I define extra time as the extra 20 mins or whatever it is b/w full time and start of the penalty shootout if it goes that far. If I am correct then what you are saying makes sense. Thanks, I'm a bit slow sometimes....

Anyway, my predictions for tonight are definitely based on the full time OR extra time score (if it goes that far) as they are NOT counting on any sort of a draw and therefore subsequent penatly shootout. Just so you are clear what I intended when tallying up points tomorrow even if I inadvertently end up with a point somehow.

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Old 27th June 2010, 04:27 PM   #428 (permalink)
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Dang. Those Germans just had to score another one. Hope they're happy.
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Old 27th June 2010, 04:43 PM   #429 (permalink)
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Re: FIFA WC Tipping comp

Can we start predicting, for points, the number of idiotic decisions from the officials, too? We saw so much of it in the qualifying stages, we've seen the mother of all bad decisions today and I bet my first born child that we'll see them all the way to the last whistle in the final.

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And that's it... knocked out by a thirteen man German team. Brilliant...

Didn't help that our defence were as much use as sacks of potatoes.

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EDIT: And whilst I'm here:

June 28th
Netherlands 3 - 1 Slovakia
Brazil 4 - 0 Chile

June 29th
Paraguay 1 - 1 Japan (Japan on penalties)
Spain 2 - 3 Portugal

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Old 27th June 2010, 05:22 PM   #430 (permalink)
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German thoroughly deserved it. Played far more intelligently. I'd say the main culprits for England were Gerrard (nothing but ambitious through-balls or long range shots, seldom just passing to someone in a better position than him), Rooney (barely managed to complete any kind of pass), Terry and Upson (who were embarassingly out of sorts). Very poor performance overall, which doesn't fully mask the fact that Sepp Blatter is total pr*ck.

Also, pundits keep saying it's difficult to say how good this German side is playing, because opposing defences keep making huge mistakes. If that happens consistently, and it has been in Germany's case, when are they going to actually start giving the Germans credit? They've easily played the best and most effective football in the tournament for me.

I did predict 5 goals though, just the wrong proportions
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Old 27th June 2010, 05:24 PM   #431 (permalink)
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Oops ! I was wrong.
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Old 27th June 2010, 05:27 PM   #432 (permalink)
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Netherlands 3 - 1 Slovakia
Brazil 1 - 2 Chile (not a typo, going for the upset)

Paraguay 2 - 1 Japan
Spain 2 - 2 Portugal (Spain win 3-2)
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Old 27th June 2010, 05:33 PM   #433 (permalink)
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Got to agree that Germany thoroughly deserved that. Sure, Lampard's goal should have stood, but if not for James England could have been four down by that point - and could have shipped eight or nine by the end. Marty Feldman...sorry, Mesut Ozil was excellent again, ran England ragged, and England's defence was absolutely woeful.

Oh, and just how badly does Rooney have to be before he's dropped? Utterly non-existent, again.
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Old 27th June 2010, 06:19 PM   #434 (permalink)
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James did well. I do think the defence might have turned up to assist him, however.

Good luck, Germany. Despite the referee's gross incompetence, Germany deserved the win.
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Old 27th June 2010, 06:41 PM   #435 (permalink)
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Dammit... turns out the ref was right...

England’s Disallowed Goal v Germany Was NOT Over The Line (With Photo Evidence) Who Ate all the Pies
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