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| Wyrm of Books Join Date: May 2009 Location: Korea, South
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| Re: 50 "Must-Read" Science Fiction Books •352. "The Hitch-hiker's Guide to the Galaxy," Douglas Adams •355. "I, Robot," Isaac Asimov •369. "The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch," Philip K. Dick •372. "Stranger in a Strange Land," Robert A. Heinlein •373. "Dune," Frank Herbert •374. "Brave New World," Aldous Huxley •386. "Nineteen Eighty-Four," George Orwell •397. "A Journey to the Centre of the Earth," Jules Verne •399. "The Island of Dr Moreau," H.G. Wells Only read 9/50, and some of the rest I've never even heard of. |
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| Creeping in shadows Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Estonia
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| Prehistoric Irish Cynic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: California
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The Affirmation Existenz The Space Machine The Separation I'm just now becoming aware that the movie, The Prestige, was based on a novel written by him of the same name. | |
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| Knivesout no more | Re: 50 "Must-Read" Science Fiction Books I think it was Alexei Panshin (it may have been someone else) who noted that , without Smith's powers being real, the cult or religion formed in Stranger In A Strange Land makes no sense. Even with it, the book is full of elements that I found problematic at best. There's Heinlein's obsession with free love - essentially freedom to have sex with anyone, anytime which I'm not convinced is such a great deal as it's made out to be (Heinlein, like Freud, falls into the error of proceeding from a recognition of the importance of sexual urges in human nature to over-estimating their importance) and the frankly offensive remarks about rape. Heinleinists defend these sorts of things by saying that one must not mix up the writer and the story and ascribe everything a character says to the writer. However, like Chesterton, the post-Starship Troopers Heinlein was a polemicist in everything he wrote. If fans wish to praise Heinlein for the 'scathing attacks on Western culture' or the philosophical content in his works they have to be willing to accept the less laudable aspects of his books as also stemming from his own philosophical vision. I don't believe Heinlein was a mere hack writer as one of the commentators on Ian Sales' blog says - but that's because I accept that a certain finesse of prose style was never a part of the charm or purpose of SF until much later than Heinlein's best work. It was raw imagination with a smattering of scientific plausibility (which I believe is a purely aesthetic element, although hard SF adherents will argue the point) that counted, and Heinlein with his sprawling Future History had raw imagination in abundance at his best . As for Christopher Priest, I do feel he has quietly amassed one of the most original and challenging bodies of work in British SF - always bearing in mind that my own SF tastes are rather skewed by the fact that I don't accept that credible extrapolation and some sort of pragmatic respectability as 'thought experiment' in various sciences and their applications is really the defining factor for the genre. |
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| Re: 50 "Must-Read" Science Fiction Books It struck me when reading "Stranger" that much of the shock value or radical nature of some of the ideas therein must have been greatly diminished to anyone reading after the late sixties. |
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| Pretentious Avatar Alert. | Re: 50 "Must-Read" Science Fiction Books Definitely, FE. Some of it is very quaint by today's standards. My favourite, though, is having Heinlein go on a long monologue about the beauty, nay the necessity, of free love, and then completely clamming up as soon as homosexuality is mentioned. Funny stuff. |
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| Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Australia, Victoria
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![]() I'm currently reading a rather fine collection by Priest entitled Dream Archipelago and hope to complete the remaining Priest canon this year, hence my particular interest. | |
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| Re: 50 "Must-Read" Science Fiction Books knivesout, I don't think Heinlein's prose was all that much better than his contemporaries. It was mostly serviceable - although, many sf writers of that time earlier couldn't even manage that. Where Heinlein excelled was in his deployment of sf tropes. He had a way of streamlining them into his story that made them seem a natural part of the setting. In many of his novels and stories, it's only the attitudes and sensibilities of his characters that seem dated - often the furniture actually feels like a different world. His classic example is, of course, "the door dilated". |
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