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Old 24th November 2009, 11:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Celtic fantasy and historical novels

I'm searching Celtic-like fantasy books, and good historical novels with English and Celtic subjects.

I somehow got the feeling that the books of Juliet Marillier are womans boks...
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Old 25th November 2009, 12:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Celtic fantasy and historical novels

Just steer clear of just about anything written in the US, particularly if the protagonists are supposed to have Scottish accents.
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Old 25th November 2009, 05:23 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Beorn, Juliet Marillier's books are what you call "womans books".
I know of some other books that are considered celtic-fantasy though I haven't read any of them so I cannot say how good they actually are.

There's Katharine Kerr's Deverry cycle, which consists of 15 books so far, starting with Daggerspell.
Teresa Edgerton's The Greeen Lion Trilogy is also celtic-like.
And finally, Lyonesse by Jack Vance, which I'm hoping to start myself very soon.

As for other Celtic historical fiction, there's Stephen R. Lawhead's The Pendragon Cycle, starting with Taliesin.
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Old 25th November 2009, 12:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Celtic fantasy and historical novels

Well more on an Arthurian vein....check out Mary Stewart's classic Merlin series, T.H Whites Once and Future King and Jack Whyte's excellent Camulod Chronicles plus Marion Zimmer Bradley's Mists Of Avalon.
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Old 25th November 2009, 02:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Lawhead has also done a really good Celtic take on the Robin Hood myth in the King Raven series, which is set on the Welsh March, and has a very strong and well-researched Welsh-Celtic setting, plus a very good handle on southern Britain after the Norman conquest. More historical fiction than fantasy, though there are some "mystical" elements (these are minimalized).

Well worth the read.
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Old 25th November 2009, 02:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Celtic fantasy and historical novels

Celtic like fantasy i would say Rigante by David Gemmell if you want high fantasy take on those myths,historical like fantasy world.

You want the settings of the stories to be in Ireland,England etc ?

Historical fiction wise have you read the classic Hornblower series by Forrester ?

You cant get more english,british than that historical wise.

Frankly you ask good questions, and i dont think Lawhead is good enough and dont have much interest in King Arthur story. There are ought to be more fantasy that is themed like this.
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There are two trilogies by Caiseal Mor, both very good I thought. A mixture of Celtic history and fantasy.
The Circle and the Cross was the first book of the first series.
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I don't think Hornblower is 'Celtic' at all, depends what you mean by English and also what time period?

A lot of literature about Britain, not; Great Britain is focussed around king Arthur because it's one of our major legends/myths.
I quite like Bernard Cornwall's take on this. There are a couple of books which I don't have to hand and can't give titles to, that deal with Celtic culture in northern Scotland (Lord of the Isles, Brochs etc. Will try to find them and get back.

Try The Goddodin.
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Re: Celtic fantasy and historical novels

Robert Holdstock's Mythago Wood and Merlin Codex cycles sound like what you are looking for, as is Paul Kearney's A Different Kingdom. Bernard Cornwell's Warlord Chronicles is also worth a look, although that's more to do with the Britons and Saxons rather than the Celts, but they and their religion do feature somewhat.
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I don't think Hornblower is 'Celtic' at all, depends what you mean by English and also what time period?

A lot of literature about Britain, not; Great Britain is focussed around king Arthur because it's one of our major legends/myths.
I quite like Bernard Cornwall's take on this. There are a couple of books which I don't have to hand and can't give titles to, that deal with Celtic culture in northern Scotland (Lord of the Isles, Brochs etc. Will try to find them and get back.

Try The Goddodin.
He asked for historical novels about english subjects. It cant get better C.S Forrester in that sense.

I'm not well read on celtic fantasy,historicals though.

There is Robert. E Howard whose fantasy,historical heroes was mostly black haired,of celtic origin. He was very proud of his Gaelic Scottish ancestry.
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Old 27th November 2009, 09:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You might want to give Jules Watson a try.

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Old 28th May 2012, 06:04 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Beorn,

If you are looking for Celtic books with more action, try anything by Kenneth C Flint or Wolfking by Bridget Wood

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Old 29th May 2012, 11:22 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Henry Treece, if you can find his stuff. Mostly out of print, though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_T...orical_fiction
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Old 31st May 2012, 11:12 PM   #14 (permalink)
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A Shadow of Gulls by Patricia Finney
The Crow Goddess by Patrica Finney

The above are two excellent novels about Cuchulain and Queen Maeve of Connaught. She sets the legend of The Tain in a historical setting around 70-80AD.

The Eagle and the Raven by Pauline Gedge is one of my all time favourite books about the Roman conquest of Britain. The characters of Caratacus, Cartimandua, Venetius and Boudicea are vividly drawn. Well worth a look.

The author Morgan Llewellyn has number of good HF books out dealing with Celtic Ireland.
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Old 21st June 2012, 12:11 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I thought Bernard Cromwell had written a series based on Celtic kings?
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