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Old 19th April 2010, 09:28 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Will Garion/Belgarion outlive Ce'nedra?

people with talent seem to stabilise in their "right" age appearance. I think, Belgarion would end up looking maybe 30 for eternity, with Ce'Nedra looking about the same (if a little younger) for the majority of her lifespan... Queen Xantha (sorry, had to correct the frequent Xera mistake) did indeed live for over 2000 years... an Oak lives a long time after-all.
I also suspect Polgara might visibly age a little so she would always look like Garions mother/aunt, rather than his younger sister (since Pol is supposed to look around 25 according to Belgarath tS).
I agree with the not-much-longer-than-Ce'Nedra theory, unless steps were taken as per Belgarath when he thought Poledra was dead.
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Old 17th June 2010, 11:33 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Will Garion/Belgarion outlive Ce'nedra?

But what about Ce'Nedras mother? From what I can figure she lived a normal life span, as her father seems to have outlived her? Eh unanswered questions get anoying.
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Old 19th June 2010, 03:44 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Will Garion/Belgarion outlive Ce'nedra?

it appears that Ce'Nedra's mother died. not from old-age. Dryads aren't immortal afterall, they, conceivably, could die from illness, childbirth (this is what i suspect, Ce'Nedra never mentions knowing her mother, and the only thing she has of hers is those Acorn earrings). When Ran Borune is dying he does mention Ce'Vanne's death...but isn't clear on the circumstances (i'm pretty sure he calls her this, i don't have Guardians of the West (or is it in King of the Murgos?) handy to check).
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Old 21st June 2010, 04:43 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Will Garion/Belgarion outlive Ce'nedra?

Major coronary incident. PFFFT! dead.
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Old 13th July 2010, 08:52 PM   #20 (permalink)
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major temper tantrum? PFFFFT dead....
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Old 20th October 2010, 06:59 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Will Garion/Belgarion outlive Ce'nedra?

will garion's son actually get to be king, because if garion and ce'nedra are going to live for as long as belgarath then geran will have a long wait before he gets to be king?
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Geran will be king in no time, as Garion will have a stroke soon. PFFFFT! Dead.
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Old 19th November 2010, 03:25 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Re: Will Garion/Belgarion outlive Ce'nedra?

It would have been interesting to see BelGarion and Ce'Nedra step down from the throne in a way taht makes them disappear and become one of those forgotten legends only to ressuface in the later book series as mysterious party members.
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Re: Will Garion/Belgarion outlive Ce'nedra?

wasn't that a Herbert tactic?
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Re: Will Garion/Belgarion outlive Ce'nedra?

She lives longer, though people with the will and the word are said to have eternal life. However, it also states they live as long as they are needed.

Like clubfoot, he accidentally discovered it, but that was so he was able to live long enough to help Belgarath later on.

Garion is also told that he will live long enough to see Eriond change the world for the better, which implies he will die, just at a longer rate. C'nedra also lives only as long as her tree if she was dryad, though she's only half, so something has to be done about that (though if her temper continues, I'd cut the thing down myself)
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She lives longer, though people with the will and the word are said to have eternal life. However, it also states they live as long as they are needed.

Like clubfoot, he accidentally discovered it, but that was so he was able to live long enough to help Belgarath later on.

Garion is also told that he will live long enough to see Eriond change the world for the better, which implies he will die, just at a longer rate. C'nedra also lives only as long as her tree if she was dryad, though she's only half, so something has to be done about that (though if her temper continues, I'd cut the thing down myself)
That Garion is told he'll live long enough to see Eriond change the world in no way actually implies his death - it is as simple as it sounds - he'll live at least that long. Theres no implication that he'll die soon after, nor for that matter how long it will take for Eriond to change the world. People being so resistant to change, meddling, and do-gooders (Eriond is the ultimate in passive do-gooders), as they are...

Ce'Nedra cannot be HALF a dryad. All dryads are born from human/dryad couplings (tho its also implied that males of other species can and have been used). Ran Borune (and the males of House Borune) is an abberition being a male descendent of a dryad (dryads do NOT have male offspring, according to BtS (or possibly PtS) and only with tampering was it possible), but since he married a dryad as well, Ce'Nedra (along with many of the women of House Borune) get Dryad from both sides of the family tree...
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Re: Will Garion/Belgarion outlive Ce'nedra?

I'm not so sure that Dryads do not have male offspring. Since Belgarath mentioned that in the females the Dryad strain breeds true, that implies that if a dryad has a male child, its not a dryad.

I'd suspect that before the Borune line married into the Dryads, when it was "that time" for dryads, if they bore a male child, it was probably killed, or abandoned (same difference) as only dryads were important in the wood.
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Re: Will Garion/Belgarion outlive Ce'nedra?

the "females breed true" line is in reference to the Borune females... not Dryads in general...
he also DOES mention (i cannot recall exactly where) that "normally a dryad would not have male offspring." prophecy tampered with the first Dryad to marry into the Borune family...
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Aneurysm. PFFFFT! Dead. The strain of putting up with that ***** will be just too much (particularly after a childhood of being nagged to death by Polgara).
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Re: Will Garion/Belgarion outlive Ce'nedra?

Sorry guys, it's not going to be a heart attack, stroke, or anything natural. Sooner or later he's going to realize how incredibly annoying, spoiled, etc. she is and tell her to "BE NOT!!". and we all know what happens then, POOF no Garion.
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