New GRRM Update on ADWD

[TK-421]

Boaz: Make sure you restrain all of those urges. Especially those for blondes.

[Boaz]

I was wondering what was under that Stormtrooper helmet...

[Clansman]

and what lake that is...

[Ursa major]

Uh-oh! Who's for the chop this time:

I'm going back to the DANCE. I need to kill someone.

(From yesterdays' entry in Not A Blog.)

[viZion]

Originally Posted by Ursa major

Uh-oh! Who's for the chop this time:

(From yesterdays' entry in Not A Blog.)

I vote for Bran. Because I don't like him.

[Culhwch]

Well that's just not going to happen...

[chairface]

I was wondering what was under that Stormtrooper helmet...

Speaking of that, a while ago I ran across a site that reminded me of TK's avatar: Hot Chicks with Stormtroopers (It is not, um, risque). They even do a "Femtrooper Friday", in which the trooper is female. Personally, I think TK should submit his avatar.

[The Imp]

Originally Posted by chairface

Speaking of that, a while ago I ran across a site that reminded me of TK's avatar: Hot Chicks with Stormtroopers (It is not, um, risque). They even do a "Femtrooper Friday", in which the trooper is female. Personally, I think TK should submit his avatar.

I guess it's a generational thing. My first thought when seeing the word "stormtrooper" is Nazi Germany, not Star Wars. I'm not being critical of anyone adopting the Star Wars version btw, it's just interesting to me.

[HareBrain]

Originally Posted by The Imp

I guess it's a generational thing. My first thought when seeing the word "stormtrooper" is Nazi Germany, not Star Wars.

Me too, but I don't think it's a generational thing in my case so much as strength of interest, being interested as a kid more in WWII than Star Wars. (Sacrilege, I know.)

BTW, the term predates Nazi usage -- the Germans in WWI called their shock-troops the same thing.

[The Imp]

Originally Posted by HareBrain

Me too, but I don't think it's a generational thing in my case so much as strength of interest, being interested as a kid more in WWII than Star Wars. (Sacrilege, I know.)

BTW, the term predates Nazi usage -- the Germans in WWI called their shock-troops the same thing.

I'm too young to actually remember WW2 but it was still very fresh in people's minds as I was growing up (GRRM and I are almost the same age btw). People were still disecting the war, talking about how things could have been different, why Hitler was able to do what he did, the concentration camp atrocities, etc. I think that peopl of later genrations don't relate to WW2 any more than all of us relate to something like the Civil war. We only know about it from history books.

Anyway, thanks for the info. I didn't realize that that term was used in WW1 as well.

[Ursa major]

I also tend to think of stormtroopers in a WWII context. (While not quite of GRRM's vintage, there were plenty of war films about when I was growing up.)

I suppose the designation was used, in fiction/films, as a shorthand: one knows which side a stormtrooper is on (in the same way as one knows that a "guard" is German in Stalag-whatever) whereas a soldier may have to be further categorised.

[chairface]

I guess I understand associating "stormtrooper" with WWII, but even in the context of TK's avatar? Man.

[The Imp]

Originally Posted by chairface

I guess I understand associating "stormtrooper" with WWII, but even in the context of TK's avatar? Man.

My comment was about the general use of the term stormtrooper, not abnout Tk's avatar. I'm kind of confused by your comment/question.

[chairface]

I took you to mean that my usage caused you to think WWII, even though I referred to TK's avatar. My bad, if that wasn't your meaning.

[The Imp]

Originally Posted by chairface

I took you to mean that my usage caused you to think WWII, even though I referred to TK's avatar. My bad, if that wasn't your meaning.

no, not at all. The thought struck me when I looked at that website, but it wasn't a new thing for me. I've always thought that Lucas was alluding to the WW2 version of stormtroopers when he created the name for the SW version.