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Old 15th February 2010, 09:38 AM   #241 (permalink)
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Re: New GRRM Update on ADWD

Or possibly - with regard to the Meerenese Knot - Undone.
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Old 15th February 2010, 10:38 AM   #242 (permalink)
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I'm probably reading to much into the titles of the entires, but this is the second on called "Not Done Yet". George is leading up to DONE, I can just feel it
Damn, you beat me too it. I just wanted to post that it is the second time he posted Not done Yet in a couple of days, whats more he even gave the number of pages written and so on. I might end up eating my words, but i'm thinking he's nearly finished it.
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Old 15th February 2010, 04:36 PM   #243 (permalink)
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Or possibly - with regard to the Meerenese Knot - Undone.
I think that when he unravels the knot he'll announce it. I'd go even further and say that we'll see an update on his website- replacing "the dance goes on and on".
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Old 16th February 2010, 06:44 AM   #244 (permalink)
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Re: New GRRM Update on ADWD

And we have a THIRD 'Not Done Yet':

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But I've left the Isle of Cedars behind, at least. 1261 pages and counting.

The timeline of this monster is going to drive me mad. I know perfectly well that as soon as DANCE is published, some of you out there are going to attempt to correlate its chronology with that of A FEAST FOR CROWS, fit all the parts together to suggest an appropriate chapter order for a (hypothetical, and largely impossible) combined book, something like what the "Big Feast" might have been, before the split.

Well, good luck with that. I'm glad you're doing it, not me. With all these characters scattered over my entire world, some chapters that span hours and others many months, various journeys and voyages to account for, not to mention the demands of the dramatic chronology, an entirely different matter than the literal chronology... well, it may well make your head explode. It did mine. The DANCE timeline alone is a bitch and a half.

Just musing aloud here, so don't anyone get all hysterical... but depending on how long the book comes out, moving some of these finished chapters into WINDS OF WINTER may make sense. Structurally you could make a good case for making DANCE a perfect parallel to FEAST; different cast of characters, but exactly the same time frame, so both books end on the same approximate date. Then WINDS could pick up the action for both sets of characters the following day.

That's not the way I have been doing it, however. As written, I've covered the FEAST time frame in the first 800 pages (manuscript pages, the printed book pages will be different) of DANCE. Everything that follows is post-FEAST, so that's where some of the cast from the last book start popping up again. Not the most elegant structure, I admit... but given how late this one is, I wanted to resolve at least a few of the cliffhangers from FEAST... (if only to set up the new cliffhangers). So...

These are the kinds of things I grapple with. No comments necessary, really. I am not looking for advice, and in fact I seldom talk about such issues precisely to AVOID unsolicited advice. These sorts of things are best resolved by me and my muse, sometimes assisted by my editors. Just felt like rambling a little.

Anyway, there we are. Back to the grindstone tomorrow.
I'm really hoping he's getting chattier the closer he gets to end. An elevated mood, perhaps? Or at least a finish line in sight?
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Old 16th February 2010, 09:07 AM   #245 (permalink)
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It all sounds rather encouraging to me.
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Old 16th February 2010, 10:02 AM   #246 (permalink)
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Re: New GRRM Update on ADWD

Should we start making guesses like summer 2010?
Published in October/November?
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Old 16th February 2010, 10:44 AM   #247 (permalink)
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Should we start making guesses like summer 2010?
Published in October/November?
Theres already a thread about guessing the completion date.
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Old 16th February 2010, 11:16 AM   #248 (permalink)
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Re: New GRRM Update on ADWD

That's a superb update. It really is.
As much as he is "musing" rather than telling, it's a great insight into all the work, anguish, pain & deliberation that go into making these books as good as they are.

Hurrah!
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Old 17th February 2010, 03:51 PM   #249 (permalink)
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That update made my day. Good for GRRM.
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Old 18th February 2010, 03:08 PM   #250 (permalink)
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Culhwch, that post excites me even more than Winter Sorrow's new beer avatar and definitely more than TK's avatar.
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Old 19th February 2010, 11:48 AM   #251 (permalink)
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Re: New GRRM Update on ADWD

Am I the only one who feels that all that's left for GRRM to finish ADWD is the Meereen knot. That he is more or less finsihed with he rest of the book.

Damn Dany, never cared all that much about her chapters anyways....
(in comparison to other pov)
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Old 19th February 2010, 12:20 PM   #252 (permalink)
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Wouldn't be much of a "Dance with Dragons" without the dragons though eh?
Don't make me sic Balerion on you, Kiwibird
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Old 19th February 2010, 05:19 PM   #253 (permalink)
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Am I the only one who feels that all that's left for GRRM to finish ADWD is the Meereen knot. That he is more or less finsihed with he rest of the book.

Damn Dany, never cared all that much about her chapters anyways....
(in comparison to other pov)
I've always liked the Dany chapters

I agree that GRRM is PROBABLY close other than "the knot". Is there some kind of "untie the knot" dance we could do?
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Old 20th February 2010, 12:55 AM   #254 (permalink)
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Re: New GRRM Update on ADWD

Martin posted on his Not A Bog today. Sounds like he's still plugging away at Mereen (score one for Kiwi), but he's got the HBO decision tugging at the edges of his mind.

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Meanwhile, March creeps ever closer, and with it the HBO decision about whether or not to greenlight the GAME OF THRONES series. I am pretty much out of the loop on this, so there's nothing I can do to impact it either way... but as much as I have tried to adopt a "que sera, sera" attitude, I'm growing increasingly anxious. All sorts of rumors swirling around the internet, both good and bad. And of course Hollywood has broken my heart before. Ask me politely and I'll show you my DOORWAYS scars...

Last but not least, there's Meereen. Can I just drop a hydrogen bomb on the damn place?

Sigh. Well, tomorrow is another day. At least when I'm in Westeros, I forget all about what may or may not be happening at HBO.
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Old 20th February 2010, 01:02 AM   #255 (permalink)
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Re: New GRRM Update on ADWD

Kinda got over thinking about these books for now, too much else to do in life but I know when it comes out I will buy it in hardback

But in the big time scale of things if I never get to read the ending to this tale in print I will just make up my own in my head and move on, its been so long i may even break my no re-read rule and start all over nearer the time

Tis sad but the wait has kind of make me get over this series for now, though I know as soon as the next book comes out I will be hooked again
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