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Ursa major · 5th February 2010, 05:38 PM

I'm not an HBO subscriber and so have only seen HBO series that appeared on free-to-air channels in the UK: basically The Sopranos and The Wire. As far as I know, these (and Six Feet Under, Rome and Showtime's The Tudors) were straight to broadcast works, so it is hard to extropolate from them (given that if there are any books (are there?), they'll be tie-ins sold after the associated transmission).

And the Harry Potter phenomenon is not much of a comparison either, given that it's one of those black swans, from which lessons can rarely be learnt.

I suppose that there are equivalents. For instance, does anyone know how Showtime's Dexter affected sales of the books? (And do we expect HBO's A Game of Thrones to follow its book more closely than did Dexter? I certainly do.)

IlliferThePenniless · 5th February 2010, 05:56 PM

I think the Dexter and True Blood (to who's success ASoIaF will pretty clearly owe a debt if it does eventually see the light of day) are almost certainly better examples then Harry Potter (which was a bona fide smash hit before the movies saw the light of day). And both series (of books) are much more prominent thanks to their television exposure.

I don't think it's just about people who have HBO or Showtime... It's about articles in Time and Entertainment weekly and more prominent positions in the book store. Anecdotally I had never heard of Sookie Stackhouse or Dexter Morgan until they graced the small screen.

Werthead · 9th February 2010, 02:18 PM

Sales of the Sookie Stackhouse books tripled after the TV series started.

Corn! Corn! Corn! · 9th February 2010, 08:15 PM

^ Yes, but ASOIAF hasn't included vampires as of yet...

Werthead · 9th February 2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Corn! Corn! Corn!

^ Yes, but ASOIAF hasn't included vampires as of yet...

It has zombies though, and dragons are getting back into fashion as well.

Corn! Corn! Corn! · 9th February 2010, 08:54 PM

Most of you guys have probably seen this, but yesterday's update came across rather nice...

Not Done Yet

Feb. 8th, 2010 at 8:06 PM

Spent the day in the rainwood. 1205 pages. More to come.

DANCE has now passed A CLASH OF KINGS to become the second longest volume in the series, though still three hundred pages shorter than the monster that was A STORM WITH SWORDS.

Mood: hopeful

No One · 9th February 2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Corn! Corn! Corn!

Spent the day in the rainwood. 1205 pages. More to come.

DANCE has now passed A CLASH OF KINGS to become the second longest volume in the series, though still three hundred pages shorter than the monster that was A STORM WITH SWORDS.

Mood: hopeful

That does sound promising. I've been trying to distract myself away from thinking about it (been re-reading Dune) but this almost sounds like ADWD is 90% or so finished.

And I like 'hopeful' - seems like Martin has got some momentum again.

One word question though: Rainwood?

The Imp · 10th February 2010, 12:58 AM

it's disturbing to me that GRRM got the name of ASOS wrong

DId someone post that for him? Mental error? Memory loss?

Werthead · 10th February 2010, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by No One

That does sound promising. I've been trying to distract myself away from thinking about it (been re-reading Dune) but this almost sounds like ADWD is 90% or so finished.

And I like 'hopeful' - seems like Martin has got some momentum again.

One word question though: Rainwood?

The Rainwood is the forest that extends along Cape Wrath in the Stormlands, south of Storm's End, along the coast of the Sea of Dorne and with the island of Estermont lying just off its coastlines. Davos Seaworth is the Lord of the Rainwood and has a keep on Cape Wrath.

IlliferThePenniless · 10th February 2010, 03:10 AM

Does anyone have any thoughts which PoV will be taking us to Dorne? I can't, for the life of me, figure it out. Davos? Is the surprise PoV Darkstar?

Werthead · 10th February 2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by IlliferThePenniless

Does anyone have any thoughts which PoV will be taking us to Dorne? I can't, for the life of me, figure it out. Davos? Is the surprise PoV Darkstar?

I'm betting on a Quentyn Martell flashback or another one-off chapter with Arianne.

No One · 10th February 2010, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Werthead

The Rainwood is the forest that extends along Cape Wrath in the Stormlands, south of Storm's End, along the coast of the Sea of Dorne and with the island of Estermont lying just off its coastlines. Davos Seaworth is the Lord of the Rainwood and has a keep on Cape Wrath.

Most gracious of you, Wert.

TK-421 · 11th February 2010, 03:38 PM

Could also be part of a Davos POV or flashback or even the yet-to-be-revealed-until-the-book-is-published POV (my money's on Jorah).

Corn! Corn! Corn! · 15th February 2010, 03:14 AM

Not Done Yet

Feb. 14th, 2010 at 6:53 PM

But today was a good, productive day. Only problem is that the chapter I finished just now is going to require that I go back and rewrite one of the chapters I finished last week. Minor stuff, though. Shouldn't take more than a day. (Famous last words, I know).

Mood: happy

The Imp · 15th February 2010, 04:50 AM

I'm probably reading to much into the titles of the entires, but this is the second on called "Not Done Yet". George is leading up to DONE, I can just feel it

5th February 2010, 05:38 PM	#226 (permalink)
Ursa major Bearly Believable Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: UK: ENGLAND: Posts: 12,060	Re: New GRRM Update on ADWD I'm not an HBO subscriber and so have only seen HBO series that appeared on free-to-air channels in the UK: basically The Sopranos and The Wire. As far as I know, these (and Six Feet Under, Rome and Showtime's The Tudors) were straight to broadcast works, so it is hard to extropolate from them (given that if there are any books (are there?), they'll be tie-ins sold after the associated transmission). And the Harry Potter phenomenon is not much of a comparison either, given that it's one of those black swans, from which lessons can rarely be learnt. I suppose that there are equivalents. For instance, does anyone know how Showtime's Dexter affected sales of the books? (And do we expect HBO's A Game of Thrones to follow its book more closely than did Dexter? I certainly do.)

5th February 2010, 05:56 PM	#227 (permalink)
IlliferThePenniless Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: New York Posts: 282	Re: New GRRM Update on ADWD I think the Dexter and True Blood (to who's success ASoIaF will pretty clearly owe a debt if it does eventually see the light of day) are almost certainly better examples then Harry Potter (which was a bona fide smash hit before the movies saw the light of day). And both series (of books) are much more prominent thanks to their television exposure. I don't think it's just about people who have HBO or Showtime... It's about articles in Time and Entertainment weekly and more prominent positions in the book store. Anecdotally I had never heard of Sookie Stackhouse or Dexter Morgan until they graced the small screen.

9th February 2010, 02:18 PM	#228 (permalink)
Werthead Lemming of Discord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,741	Re: New GRRM Update on ADWD Sales of the Sookie Stackhouse books tripled after the TV series started.

9th February 2010, 08:15 PM	#229 (permalink)
Corn! Corn! Corn! Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 138	Re: New GRRM Update on ADWD ^ Yes, but ASOIAF hasn't included vampires as of yet...

9th February 2010, 08:54 PM	#231 (permalink)
Corn! Corn! Corn! Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 138	Re: New GRRM Update on ADWD Most of you guys have probably seen this, but yesterday's update came across rather nice... Not Done Yet Feb. 8th, 2010 at 8:06 PM Spent the day in the rainwood. 1205 pages. More to come. DANCE has now passed A CLASH OF KINGS to become the second longest volume in the series, though still three hundred pages shorter than the monster that was A STORM WITH SWORDS. Mood: hopeful

10th February 2010, 12:58 AM	#233 (permalink)
The Imp Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,452	Re: New GRRM Update on ADWD it's disturbing to me that GRRM got the name of ASOS wrong DId someone post that for him? Mental error? Memory loss?

10th February 2010, 03:10 AM	#235 (permalink)
IlliferThePenniless Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: New York Posts: 282	Re: New GRRM Update on ADWD Does anyone have any thoughts which PoV will be taking us to Dorne? I can't, for the life of me, figure it out. Davos? Is the surprise PoV Darkstar?

11th February 2010, 03:38 PM	#238 (permalink)
TK-421 I Do Not Sow Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,469	Re: New GRRM Update on ADWD Could also be part of a Davos POV or flashback or even the yet-to-be-revealed-until-the-book-is-published POV (my money's on Jorah).

15th February 2010, 03:14 AM	#239 (permalink)
Corn! Corn! Corn! Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 138	Re: New GRRM Update on ADWD Not Done Yet Feb. 14th, 2010 at 6:53 PM But today was a good, productive day. Only problem is that the chapter I finished just now is going to require that I go back and rewrite one of the chapters I finished last week. Minor stuff, though. Shouldn't take more than a day. (Famous last words, I know). Mood: happy

15th February 2010, 04:50 AM	#240 (permalink)
The Imp Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,452	Re: New GRRM Update on ADWD I'm probably reading to much into the titles of the entires, but this is the second on called "Not Done Yet". George is leading up to DONE, I can just feel it

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