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Old 12th December 2007, 10:37 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Having read like 120 pages of DHG it really feels like a filler. If the end isnt amazing i will wish i read the third book before DHG that seem to be the real sequal of GOTM.

The lack of warrens,gods so far is the biggest letdown.

That was what i liked most in GOTM. The interesting system of magic, the gods,the ones that work for them like the hounds,Rope etc
Be patient it does get better and the ending of this book for me was one of the most memorable I've read in the Genre. Strong emotional impact.

The high point is Book 3 but DHG is still a brilliant moving read. Trust me my friend, it certainly isn't a filler...

PS Actually you'll be blown away by the magic systems in Memories Of Ice, I know I was!!
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Old 12th December 2007, 09:55 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Just finished DHG, and found it draining. You certainly can't call it filler, chap...
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Old 12th December 2007, 10:37 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I felt the same Connavar as I began the book and got through about the first quarter of it. But as I pushed forward that all changed. So like others stated definitely keep going. While it isn't necessarily connected with Garden's as a true sequel they all tie together in the end and Deadhouse gets to you by the end in the way you hope a book can move you.
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Old 13th December 2007, 12:24 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Be patient it does get better and the ending of this book for me was one of the most memorable I've read in the Genre. Strong emotional impact.

The high point is Book 3 but DHG is still a brilliant moving read. Trust me my friend, it certainly isn't a filler...

PS Actually you'll be blown away by the magic systems in Memories Of Ice, I know I was!!
Even if the end is amazing like GOTM it worries me cause it makes me think every book in the series will draining until the great ending. I want to be entertained way before the end.

My problem with DHG is i dont care for the characters except Kalam,Fiddler,Corkus and Sorry. They are only 1 of 4 stories. The Jhag,Trell i could careless of, Duiker is semi interesting, Heboric and the younger sister Paran nah....

Its wierd that i thought the first half of GOTM was slow and alittle bad but atleast then i enjoyed almost every character in it from Lorn to Kruppe,Paran etc

Dont get me wrong his prose and writing got alot more smoother since the first book but the story is lacking. It hasnt got into high gear yet and i have read almost half the book.

I will struggle my way through this and i dont care how it ends , i really wish the third book is amazing from page one. In GOTM ever since the story switched to Darujistan i enjoyed every bit of the book. I cant wait to see what happens with those characters after their story ended in GOTM.
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Old 13th December 2007, 07:12 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I think the story in DhG pisses all over the story from GotM. I definitely wouldn't call it lacking, not from any point in the book.
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Old 13th December 2007, 03:47 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I think the story in DhG pisses all over the story from GotM. I definitely wouldn't call it lacking, not from any point in the book.
It depends really IMO on which part of GOTM you are talking about.

Pre Darujistan many avreage fantasy stories was better than that part GOTM story.
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Deadhouse Gates is the standout book of the series for me. The whole section on the Chain of Dogs is about the best and most moving sequences I have ever read in the Fantasy genre. And for a character who does not say much throughout, Coltaine really touches you as a reader.
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Old 8th February 2008, 10:19 PM   #38 (permalink)
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if you can bear with the series i think you will come to love it.its possibly the best series ever written IMO. ive read them all and cant wait for the next one toll of hounds
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I just finished DG and have no idea what happened what the plot resolution was etc. I have Memories of Ice on standby but I think I will give it a year before I read it. I was not impressed, it was just as confusing as GOTM (I could not really see the intentions of the characters and then all of a sudden I am reading about how some of them are dying, because of this and that, but it was not explained to me in the story). I think I got to a point where I did not care for the characters because he jumped around so much between them. The ending made no sense to me, in other words I have read Goodkind and Feist and that was way better for me. Not sure If I will carry on the series, maybe MoI can redeem it for me. Oh well, I do think he is overrated and overhyped.

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Why did Felisin become Sha'ik and how did it happen? When I read the part it was like all of a sudden she is now Sha'Ik and no explanation of how she got there or why it happened.
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Deadhouse Gates is the standout book of the series for me. The whole section on the Chain of Dogs is about the best and most moving sequences I have ever read in the Fantasy genre. And for a character who does not say much throughout, Coltaine really touches you as a reader.
I hardly noticed Coltaine in this book, and thought very little of the guy, I just probably did not pay much attention because of all the character/scene hopping.
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Why did Felisin become Sha'ik and how did it happen? When I read the part it was like all of a sudden she is now Sha'Ik and no explanation of how she got there or why it happened.
How do you mean? It's more a title than anything else. I mean, she gets kinda linked to Dryjhna, but not much else.


On the other hand, you actually said Goodkind was better, so I'm taking away your reader's card and burning it. Have a nice day
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Old 24th April 2008, 06:37 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Well if I knew she was linked to Dryjhna then it would have made sense (who is Dryjhna anyway?). I did not say Goodkind is a better writer I meant that his WFR had a story that felt like it had more spark/heart/soul for me. I am not trying to offend anyone here just voicing my opinion. A lot of people seem very touchy about the whole Erikson Goodkind thing, after giving DG a chance I feel that some of the other "unliked" writers actually have more heart and soul in there books, I am sorry but I just could not feel it in this book. Just to let you know these are just books nothing to actually get worked up about.

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Old 24th April 2008, 07:38 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Dryjhna is the goddess of the Apocalypse. Of which considerable more is revealed in House of Chains but I guess you'll miss out on that now



But there was me thinking they were real life stories. Thanks for the heads up
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Yip it really is sad, you do seem to take offense, when I said I wasn't intentionally offending anyone.
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Old 24th April 2008, 08:10 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Clearly I need to work on conveying tone... the smiley faces were supposed to be a hint - no offence, just sad at your loss.

Well, other than the Goodkind bizarreness and the last sentance of your previous post, hence the sarcasm.
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