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Old 24th July 2005, 08:17 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Reading Erikson is like eating a plate of spaghetti...
the sauce goes everywhere, but if you stick your fork in and keep turning, it all ends up in the right place...

Looking forward to getting my books signed at FantasyCon...... oh gods now everyone will know I'm a closet geeky-nerd type
Don't stress I'll be happy to "comfort" you and your avatar....

Interesting comparison b/w GRRM and Erikson you make there as both do jump around quite a bit. I guess with GRRM the jumping around thing may be a little more obvious or codified in the sense that each chapter in the book literally has a specific character named after it.

Enjoy the trip to Worldcon!!...

PS That's a nice way to describe Erikson's writing you use there, most apt..
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Old 2nd August 2005, 10:32 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Well I just bought Gardens of the Moon and I have not started it yet. I was on the net so I stopped here to read some more of this authors forum. I see high praise for this author here, but the first book seems to be a bit of a struggle, from what I have read. When I get in a bit I will post some of my thoughts.

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it's a real bitch to get your head around isn't it?
wait till you reach the mad puppet thingy (synapes start popping... )
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Well I just bought Gardens of the Moon and I have not started it yet. I was on the net so I stopped here to read some more of this authors forum. I see high praise for this author here, but the first book seems to be a bit of a struggle, from what I have read. When I get in a bit I will post some of my thoughts.

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Like WS says it's not easy to get into Rahl BUT hang in there because the last 100/150 pages or so are great and most of the threads are hung together by Erikson by the end of the book. As I've said before the most complicated books in terms of plot and characters involved I've read in the fanatsy genre but I sure am glad I persevered....
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Old 8th August 2005, 12:05 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Actually I like the way this story is unfolding, and how the author seems to expect the reader to already know the characters. I think its better this way as I already know this is an epic story in terms of how large it is. Therefore if the author went on and on with background material for his characters, and thus quenching the readers desire to find out more, he would reveal far too much before the conclusion of the story.

Aye and the Puppet is in the story and all I can say is the magic in this story is unbelieveably fantastic, almost to the point where one would say, "this seems like a childs fantasy novel" But Mr Erickson describes these events in such a way as to make is seem ordinary to mostly everyone involved and thus keeping it from becoming ridiculous. I like the puppet.

Yes the beginning seems confusing at times but for the most part I have enjoyed it a lot. I am only about 150 pages in and lately my time to read is very limited.

I am real busy at work this week, and last, with the Canadian National Amature Ladies Golf Championship. Getting our course into PGA shape has been a TON of work for the crew, the RCGA gave us a list of three pages of changes we had to make, but the course looks fantastic and plays even better. Anyway if you live in Canada you will probably see highlights of this tournament on TSN, CBC, Global, and SportsNet, if you want to see where I get to work. Did I mention I love my job?

PS: The course I speak of is in Squamish, BC, Canada, about an hours drive north of Vancouver, BC and about an hours drive south of Whistler, BC. Squamish Valley Golf and Country Club, in case you are interested.

http://www.squamishvalleygolf.com/

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Old 8th August 2005, 07:50 AM   #36 (permalink)
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WOW Rahl I'm not a big golfer but that looks like some magnificent scenery to drive, chip and putt by....

So I assume you play the beautiful game too Rahl? If so do you play off a handicap and what is it or are you in fact playing off scratch LOL!!...

Getting back to Erikson Im glad you're enjoying it. It does get easier to follow with each book in terms of what is going on. I basically felt that by the end of Book 3 I had most of the main elements/structure worked out in my own mind. If you think it's good so far wait till Book's end and the following books. I found the series/story improves with each book like a fine wine. Prepare to be blown away!!

Your following comment is interesting:
Mr Erickson describes these events in such a way as to make is seem ordinary to mostly everyone involved and thus keeping it from becoming ridiculous.

It quite nicely parallells Stephen Donaldson's (another fav author) comment that Erikson's wrting manages what "only the rarest of books can manage: it alters the reader's perceptions of reality" in other words he does make his world almost believable.

Ciaoo for now...
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Old 8th August 2005, 07:04 PM   #37 (permalink)
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On the cover of this edition of Gardens of the Moon is an endorsement comment from Stephen R. Donaldson...

"My Advice to anyone who might listen to me: Treat yourself to Gardens of the Moon."

Signed: Stephen R. Donaldson, author of The Runes of the Earth.

Interesting, I shall have to look for his work at some point then!

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Edit: Well I don't play very often mostly I just totally enjoy working there and making the place look as beautiful as it can possibly be. So I am not that good at the game, I prefer to make the game enjoyable for those who can play
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On the cover of this edition of Gardens of the Moon is an endorsement comment from Stephen R. Donaldson...
"My Advice to anyone who might listen to me: Treat yourself to Gardens of the Moon."
Signed: Stephen R. Donaldson, author of The Runes of the Earth.
Interesting, I shall have to look for his work at some point then!
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Edit: Well I don't play very often mostly I just totally enjoy working there and making the place look as beautiful as it can possibly be. So I am not that good at the game, I prefer to make the game enjoyable for those who can play
Yep my cover probably has something similar, Donaldson has an author forum here in this part of chronicles so check it out!

Happy landscaping Rahl!!!!...
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Old 11th August 2005, 10:00 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Well I am about 350 pages into Gardens of the Moon now and I am finding that this story is everything you all have been praising it to be and more. If I had to use one word to describe this story I would have to say brilliant! The only problem I have now is I need to finish all currently published Malazan Book of the Fallen volumes before George R R Martin's A feast for Crows comes out in November. I would have to give aFfC my full attention I can't imagine reading two equally complicated and intriguing stories at the same time. Although the depth of this story, the magic system, the gods, the entire reality that is so amazing and alien, yet so believable. Absolutely amazing, perhaps even more so then A Song of Ice and Fire and I never thought I'd say that.

I can't wait to hand Gardens of the Moon to my brother, I remember the look on his face the day he handed me A Game of Thrones.


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Well I am about 350 pages into Gardens of the Moon now and I am finding that this story is everything you all have been praising it to be and more....Absolutely amazing, perhaps even more so then A Song of Ice and Fire and I never thought I'd say that.
Oh well what can I say, like I've been telling you mate Erikson No 1, Martin No 2......

You could always go back to reading other stuff for the next 2 months until AFOC comes out in November, read that and then go back to the remaining Erikson books remembering Book 6 of 10 comes out in Feb 2006. Erikson is like a fine wine so don''t rush it too much, savour the moment...

BTW GOT is the weakest of the Malazan books IMO as it's a setup book so wait until you get to Book 2 and then Book 3 and you'll know all about being blown away....

Have you read R Scott Baker's Prince of Nothing tirlogy yet? Book 3 due end of the year I think. Almost as good as these two guys...
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It's good to see that your enjoying it so much, Rahl. They only get better from Gardens of the Moon, which is usually considered to be the weakest of the novels published so far.
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It's good to see that your enjoying it so much, Rahl. They only get better from Gardens of the Moon, which is usually considered to be the weakest of the novels published so far.
Hey is there an echo in here or something.....

*GOLLUM goes down into basement to check padded insulation*....

Just joshing Brys....
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Well the thing about this book, as I see it so far, is it sets up the rest of the story. So the aspect I am enjoying the most about Gardens of the Moon is trying to figure out where this author is going with the various plots.

The only problem I am having there is Mr Erickson's imagination is quite unique, so as I try to figure things out, then I turn the page and I then see that I had it all wrong!

And really thats the beauty of this book, the one thing I can see clearly is that there is enough in this story to keep things interesting for a very long time. Just when you think you have a character nailed down they do something that keeps you guessing and wanting to read more.

So far, as I see things, Whiskeyjack and his group will have a huge part to play in this story and I assume the story is to eventually bring down the Empire, but then again like I said above, I am nearly certain I have that all wrong which is the best part about this story. Most likely there is some event about to happen that will throw the Empire into chaos I quote:

"Tool" she asked slowly, almost regretting her need to persist in questioning him, "what is the significance of the Kron coming?"
"The Year of the Three Hundredth Millennium approaches," the warrior replied.
"What happens then?"
"Adjunct, the Diaspora ends."

So I assume these Kron werre exiled and they really could be pissed off aboout that!

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You know you're not that far off the mark there Rahl with your comments...

Erikson seems to be very good at not telegraphing the character's next moves or indeed which way the plot/stroy line heads next, a particular aspect of this series I enjoy.

As you say GOTM is very much a setup book for the rest of the series which I can happily report improves like a fine wine over time.
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Well I have specifically avoided reading most of the threads in this forum so that I don't read and spoilers by accident. I am relieved to see that my comments are not really spoilers, as you pointed out by at them

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