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| Seconds out! Join Date: Oct 2008
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| Re: Excerpt from new project Oog. Now, I liked this, it was engaging and had a good feel for character and family. There were some rough edges, as you know, and some of the roughness was due to matters of punctuation etc that I've pointed out in your earlier piece, so I won't do so again. I assume there's something more than pure clockwork going on with Nana Fleura? Also, I liked the French feel. But (oh no, a but, how predictable) it reads as though it centres around, and exists purely to introduce, the backstory concept of the thirteen bad guys. And I wonder if you really want to introduce this concept so soon. Granted, it is a hook, since it's an interesting idea. I've been struggling with a similar dilemma in my own stuff - how soon to introduce the truth-behind-the-world. Isn't it more exciting for the reader to not know anything about this coven of magicians at the beginning, and only discover them along with the characters? Although you've set up a mystery here, you've also prevented yourself creating an even more intriguing one (but maybe you've thought this through better than I've given you credit for, in which case apologies). Last edited by HareBrain; 24th October 2008 at 06:31 PM.. Reason: Correct errors after I hit "post" instead of "preview"! |
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| Breakfast of choice Join Date: Oct 2008
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| Re: Excerpt from new project Hmmmmm... Actually the original intent was to describe the world (basically a broken platonian crystal sphere). The legends of the Thirteen are not exacly unknown to the populace, though most give it about as much credance as say, the existance of Satan. However, if I put it in writing then the 'Squid is on the Mantel' so to speak. Perhaps it would work better if I were to rework the 'earth shattering kaboom' so as to not mention the 'Big Bads'? Oh, and it was supposed to have a 'Midnight on the Firing Line' later in the story ^_^ |
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| Seconds out! Join Date: Oct 2008
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| Breakfast of choice Join Date: Oct 2008
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| Re: Excerpt from new project No free time until 2009. All the same, I'm still working on it. Here's the current work on the first chapter, including fixing all of the stuff that was broken with the first version. If you want to skip right to the new content, I highlighted where it starts in red. enjoy Quote:
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| weaver of the unseen Join Date: Aug 2007
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| Re: Excerpt from new project Quote:
I have been quiet about this, because I was so unsure about it. But wouldn't the man, in such a state, only concentrate his mind to the major storm and forget about the 'smaller storms'. My advice would to forget the smaller storms and only concentrate to describe the maelstrom and it's multiple effects - like other smaller funnels reaching down from the hanging clouds as if they would be writhering serpents. Quote:
Professor Moreaux frowned, he pulled a pocket watch from his coat to examine it and the horizon. "No captain, that simply won't do," he said after a moment. "I remind you one last time. I have already... Quote:
Thing is that you build a sense of anticipation of the ship heading in the storm, then you don't describe but rather leave it for reader to imagine the horrors the crew faced during the night. Is there any possibility for you to add it? Maybe even in its own chapter? | |||
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| Breakfast of choice Join Date: Oct 2008
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| Re: Excerpt from new project RE: "Smaller" storms, Zachary James is the captain, as such he must keep aware of all threats around his vessel. As impressive as the Maelstrom is he is not about ready to sail his ship into it, the "smaller" storms (likely full blown tropical storms bordering on hurricanes) pose the real threat to him. I figured that the steward, Mr Gesse could be allowed the luxury of being fully engrossed by the spectical. RE: Horrors of the night, I keep debating this point with myself. I'm worried that I'll fall into the trap of 'false danger' if I put it into writing. It also seems to me that it would add very little to the central storyline (which is the conflict between Zachary and Evan) and artificially lengthen the story (risking boring the reader as they skip ahead to the 'real' story anyway). I was toying with the idea of putting a few bits into the dialogue between Zachary and Mr. Hendreux to help flesh out the ordeal of the night. Something like; Quote:
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| weaver of the unseen Join Date: Aug 2007
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| Re: Excerpt from new project Waffles, I'm sorry if I offended you, but you build such a good tension with between the captain, his passanger and approaching storm that I see it would be shame to waste such an opportunity. It is the conflicts in the major disasters that really bring out the true characters in the story. Think about Ahab and the Moby-Dick. There's a great tragedy in the play like there is a tradegy in your story where the Professor is determined to venture into the storm despite many of the odds playing against him and the crew of the ship. In same time, the captain is not only worried about the crew and the ship, as he knows that he needs to deliver the Professor in his destination. It's almost like the Professor is Philias Fogg from the Around the World in 80 days. Do you get what I mean? |
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| Breakfast of choice Join Date: Oct 2008
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| Re: Excerpt from new project I certainly hope I don't sound offended because I really wasn't (perhaps just a bit frusterated at having things stalled out ATM because of other-worldly commitments, lol). I'm still leerie about getting too much into the storm itself because I've seen it mishandled too many times (and I have my doubts whether I could successfully pull it off or not). I guess in my mind, the scene climaxed when Zachary made his decision to hold course and I'm afraid anything I tried to add after that would be anti-climactic. Still, no harm in writing it out and doing my best with it. Worst thing that'll happen is it will wind up on the cutting-room floor next to that prologue I wrote (but I really liked that prologue). If I wasn't so darned busy right now I'd probably be less resistant to experimenting with it. ...now where can I find a copy of Moby Dick? |
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| weaver of the unseen Join Date: Aug 2007
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| Re: Excerpt from new project Just think about it, put it in back of your mind to stew a bit and when you're ready, give it a go. It might be the best thing you have written. In a meantime, get on to the next chapter and arrival to the port. |
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| Chris Berman Join Date: Nov 2008
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| Re: Excerpt from new project This is a very interesting piece. I liked it. I suppose this is some sort of alternate Earth, using extrapolated Victorian era technology? The image you describe calls to mind the photographs of Jupiter. I can certainly picture in my mind a huge hydrogen filled Zepilin slicing through that churning atmosphere. Do you have more, like complete chapters? Chris |
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| Breakfast of choice Join Date: Oct 2008
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| Re: Excerpt from new project Here's another chunk from right after they make landfall: Quote:
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| kespires.blogspot.com Join Date: Jul 2008
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| Re: Excerpt from new project The biggest technical errors I noticed were some unclear pronouns. When the proprietor enters the picture you're using He instead of his name a few times in the midst of a lot going on. Be wary of pronouns because as we write we know who we intend those actions to be attributed to, but our readers don't. So just examine the places you use He or Him instead of a name and make sure they're clearly showing the proper person acting. The sentence in question is: He pondered it, pulled what appeared to be a simple pocket watch from his coat, popped it open and examined it. In the ending to the prior paragraph the captain was speaking. Using He to begin the next paragraph makes the reader assume you're still with the captain's actions. Instead this is the proprietor's actions. So in this case the proprietor's name instead of He might be best. Keep up the hard work. |
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| weaver of the unseen Join Date: Aug 2007
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| Re: Excerpt from new project It's good drama, and more emotion over the drama that happened in the night. I still think that 'the voyage through the storm' would be great. If you don't want to write it out as it happens, you can always play it through the thoughts as an flashback sequence. This new excerpt also reads like Jules Verne '80 days around the world' combined to the 'Moby Dick'. |
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