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| will work for donuts.... Join Date: Dec 2007
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| Query Letter Help Ok, I would like some advice on my query letter. I had been going under the premise of keeping it short and simple and let the writing speak for itself, like this: Quote:
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But then I found this: http://w2.eff.org//Misc/Publications...erling.lexicon which got me thinking that maybe in the second query letter I'm using just enough rope to hang myself with. It's not that I think my novel has any of the faults mentioned on that site (a couple of them did apply in early drafts of my MS) but I don't want to give the agent the feeling that those things COULD be in my novel. Is the first one better, the second, or something in between? Any feedback would be welcome as I tend to way overthink these things. | ||
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| Goblin Princess | Re: Query Letter Help They both contain too much unnecessary information. Quote:
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An agent doesn't care about your philosophy of writing, or what you think makes a good book, or any of that. They want to know something about your plot and characters that will inspire them with the desire to read the rest of your submission. Instead of expanding on your first letter, get right down to business, and concentrate on making your capsule description of the book more dynamic, more interesting. This is where you hook the agent -- or you don't. As it stands, it's just a list of events written in a very flat and passive style, and it gives no hint of originality. (Your book may be the most original thing written in the last twenty years, but no one would guess it from that description.) Tell the agent something about your main character that sets him apart from all the other xeno-archaeologists who discover alien artifacts at the beginnings of SF novels. (And by the way, is it an artifact or a life form? In one sentence it's the one, and in the next it's the other. It can't be both. Or does he go to study what he thinks is an artifact and learn that it's a frozen life form instead? ) Describe the Delanii in such a way that the agent knows they aren't just a generic race of conquerers ("a strange nebula-dwelling race" in no way distinguishes them). Describe the Halfac in such a way that the agent knows they aren't just another generic telepathic race about to be conquered. Also, until you get to the last sentence it sounds like you are describing two different books, because you don't mention anything that ties Harlow to either the Delanii or the Halfac. When he's whisked out of the solar system, whether he ends up with the attackers, the defenders, or with another race entirely would each present a different set of challenges. Or does he spend most of the story alone on an uninhabited planet, his plot line running parallel to the other until almost the end? Each of these possibilities would be a different story, but the way you have it now it could be any of these, or something else altogether. An agent needs to know which one it is. What all this means is that the information you give about your story and your characters is much too general. You need some specifics to bring them to life. Of course you have to do all this in as few words as possible (especially since you are including a synopsis and sample pages) so you have to make every word count. You can begin by writing a description of the story that doesn't include some version of the verb "to be" in practically every sentence. Too many passive verbs (and "to be" is the most passive verb of all) create a deadening effect. This is, by the way, a very easy trap to fall into when you are writing in the present tense, as in a synopsis. But just by changing to more active verbs your description will already sound more interesting. Last edited by Teresa Edgerton; 14th October 2008 at 07:59 AM.. | ||
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| will work for donuts.... Join Date: Dec 2007
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As to the reason I am submitting to their agency, I just thought it was kind of standard (from the examples of query letters I've seen) to list where you found out about them. But if you think it's unnecessary than out it goes. I can definitely see how adding some detail will make it 'pop' more. Thanks for the advice! | |
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| will work for donuts.... Join Date: Dec 2007
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| Re: Query Letter Help Ok, Teresa, I have fully revamped my Query letter and would love to get some follow-up feedback from you. I got rid of the BS and begin with a hook and then go right into the mini-synopsis. Let me know what you think. (Others comments are also always welcome, of course). The one thing I can think of to do at this point would be to make it a little shorter, but can't really see where that might be done.......so if you have any suggestions in that regard they would also be most welcome. Dear ____________; When Harlow Cavalear, an archaeologist battling sickle cell anemia, is captured by a hive-like race called the Moehtira, he becomes an unwitting participant in a universal war for the chitin, a substance that has the power to save one race or destroy them all. Thus begins the journey of one of the main characters in my 250,000 word Space Opera, Universe Ocean. While all books are about something, my book is about Nothing…….or rather, the novel intimately details the war between Something and Nothing. Harlow is studying a frozen alien life form discovered in the Kuiper Belt when the asteroid is struck by an alien craft. He is taken aboard by a Moehtira named K’fluna. The Moehtira spend their lives exploring and mapping the universe; at the end of each Epoch they must rejoin with the HiveMother or else the change that wracks their bodies becomes fatal. However, K’fluna’s ship is damaged by the collision and she is unable to return home. On the planet Halfa lives a race of beings that are telepathically connected to one another via an organ in the center of their chest called the vugg. Every tribe must adhere to one of the Seven Controls of Sibb Order which guides their actions on both a personal and societal level. Podnar, an assassin who carries out the machinations of a hidden eighth cabal, discovers that not only was his vugg intentionally disconnected when he was a child, but that he has been manipulated by the Control of Silence his entire life. He attempts to bring down this organization but is discovered and sentenced to a lifelong exile on a Mijx planet. Some revere the Mijx while others look down on them as non-sentient animals; all agree that they are to be left alone unless one is in a hurry to die. Harlow and K’fluna are searching for a way to repair the Moehtira’s damaged vessel when they encounter Podnar. Harlow is enslaved by the Halfac and though he escapes not long afterward, the consequences of his captivity are far-reaching, drawing him into a war that eventually threatens the very existence of the universe. Podnar frees the Delanii, creatures living in the void of space that do not breathe oxygen and communicate through complex bursts of radiation from their fingertips. In exchange for letting them out of the nebula that has been their home for the last several millennia, they promise to help him destroy the Corsujian, a race that Podnar believes is blaspheming the Mijx by mining the chitin crystals. But little does he know that they will enslave the entire Halfac population and then force them to mine the chitin, giving the Delanii the one thing they need to begin their symphony of destruction… The first six pages of the manuscript along with a one page synopsis immediately follow this letter. Please notify me if you are interested in reviewing my complete text for publishing consideration. Thank you for taking the time to consider representing my work. |
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| Goblin Princess | Re: Query Letter Help One problem with this is that having read it I feel like I've already read your one page synopsis. You included everything I suggested, but you used a lot of words to do it (I know it's very hard to boil things down and still get everything of importance in, but it's necessary). Specifically: Quote:
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But the biggest problem, as I see it, is that no agent is going to consider a single book of 250,000 words by a first time author. You are going to have to divide this before a publisher would buy it. So what I would suggest is that you think about where you would divide the book in two, summarize in your letter only that portion of the plot that would then become the first book (this also has the advantage of leaving you with less story to boil down in your query), as well as mentioning that it's the first part of duology. Say that the manuscript for Book One is complete at (however many words it will be after the division), and that you will be happy to send it to the agent on request. I hope this is helpful. | ||||||||
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| will work for donuts.... Join Date: Dec 2007
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| Re: Query Letter Help Wow. Your remarks are very insightful, Teresa. Some a bit harder to swallow than others, but immensely useful nonetheless. I really appreciate you taking the time to help me. I am already at work on another revision based on your comments. However, I would question one thing..... Quote:
It's not that I mind making the changes--it's an idea I actually toyed with a while back and wouldn't take that long to do. But if SF novelist Hannu Rajaniemi can get a three book deal from just twenty four double spaced pages of an unfinished manuscript, then why couldn't a first time author get a 'lengthy' novel published, especially considering that word count is a standard for the genre? Granted, Hannu's example is the exception to the rule, but I think you get my point. Or maybe the agent would prefer to make some cuts to bring it down to a smaller, single volume.... Let me know your thoughts. | |
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| Goblin Princess | Re: Query Letter Help It's not the agent's job to suggest cuts or revisions; in all but the rarest cases they want a manuscript that is ready to send out to publishers. It would definitely be a good idea to let the agent know that Book Two is already written, but presenting one big manuscript that needs dividing and restructuring is not. (And 250,000 words is not standard for the genre. It's enormously long even for an author with a track record, let alone a brand new author.) Yes, there is a tiny, tiny chance that you're the next Hannu Rajaniemi, and an agent of John Jarrold's stature would instantly fall in love with what you've written regardless of the length ... but is that what you want, a miniscule chance that an agent wouldn't give you a vague, "Query me again when you have a manuscript of publishable length?" Or do you want to materially improve your chances of an agent being genuinely interested at once? It's good to have confidence in what you've written, but you should also have reasonable expectations. Quote:
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| weaver of the unseen Join Date: Aug 2007
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| Re: Query Letter Help Please, TAA don't get upset because of Hannu's deal. He's an exception on the rule that binds us rest together. Read his work from the Interzone and you will see why JJ is so adamant to present him. We're not as talented as he is, and even then, there's still the risk factor in the play, as he might never get to the 100 000 mark, or the public might not buy his work. So, please do what you need to do. Make shorter and punchier query letter that only encapsulates the essential from your work and send it out. In a meantime, cut your story to be between 100 000 - 150 000 mark. Last edited by ctg; 31st October 2008 at 10:35 AM.. |
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![]() Oh, and just out of curiosity, is there a website anywhere that you can go to that will tell you what the word count of a specific published novel is? | |
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| Goblin Princess | Re: Query Letter Help There really isn't a rule. Many of the books on my shelves have 38 lines per page, which would come in around 400 words, but I just counted the lines in the trade paperback editions of The Hidden Stars and A Dark Sacrifice and they're 32 and 30 lines respectively. They look like big books, at over 400 pages, but ADS is only 115,000 words including the appendices. |
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| Re: Query Letter Help Ok, then I would have to disagree with this statement: Quote:
So how can you possibly tell me that 250k word count is long for the genre?? Granted, maybe publishers don't want to take on that large of a book from an unproven author because of cost, but I do not think it's excessive for the genre.... | |
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| Goblin Princess | Re: Query Letter Help Quote:
Also, Peter F. Hamilton's books have been coming out since the early '90s, Vernor Vinge was first published in the '70s, and while Alistair Reynold's was first published in 2000, Absolution Gap was his fourth book. So none of these are new authors. You should also keep in mind that science fiction is not doing as well now as it has in the past. It's harder (but not impossible, of course) to interest a publisher in an SF book, just at the outset. The fact that you're new is another minus, and the length of the book still another. How many do you want to start out with, before an agent even starts to read the book? On a purely mercenary note (and I know you're not thinking of that right now, but it's a little extra inducement to divide the book): You don't get paid more for a big book. If you divide it in half, and if you sell it, you get two advances, not one. | |
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