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Old 26th July 2008, 12:52 AM   #16 (permalink)
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The best scene in the series hasn't been mentioned yet.

Varys, disguised as a goaler, visits Ned in the dungeon. Ned pleads for Sansa and Arya's lives. Varys tells him about Rhaegar's daughter having a favorite toy (a dragon I think?) that she loved to play with and took everywhere. Then he tells him how when the Mountain found her he dashed her head against the wall, smearing her brains across the stone.

Never in reading any other series have so many shades of gray been illustrated, in my limited experience at least. Ned, the character I cared most about in AGoT, helped that vile act come to pass by supporting Robert and allying himself with the Lannisters.

Superb storytelling.
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Old 26th July 2008, 05:03 AM   #17 (permalink)
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My top 5:

The crowning of Viserys.

Jon finding Ygrittes body.

Cersei losing it when she realizes she'd been caught by the new high septon.

The killing of Lady.

Dany turning the Unsullied on their former masters.
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Old 26th July 2008, 05:22 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Yes poor Cersei, being a Lesbian, while entertaining to read, is not so good in practice, religions figures arent much into sexual freedoms.

*Disclaimer* Yes I know she's not reaally a lesbian but hey!
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Old 26th July 2008, 03:39 PM   #19 (permalink)
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i love that she was caught for some other sexual crime bittersweet..
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Old 29th July 2008, 02:01 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Have any of you read anything regarding Martin's favorite scenes? I'd bet Wert would know.

I think the majority of the scenes mentioned here fall into a few categories.

Death: Where a character meets an untimely or sudden end. Robb, Viserys, Oberyn, etc...

Yesteryear: When we learn through dreams, memories, or conversations about privileged information regarding the past. The Tower of Joy, Mad King Aerys, Tysha, etc...

Good byes: Saying or not-saying farewell. Lady, Drogo, Ygritte, etc...

Martin uses all to drive the story forward yet make us still yearn for leaving our favorite character alone!

I also get really excited during any meetings of decision makers. I know there's a lot of story going on with Arya, Jon, Dany, and Brienne but eavesdropping on Small Council meetings, Tywin's conversations, Littlefinger's schemings, Cersei's follies, and Stannis' machinations gets my mind racing. I just love the over arching political plots.
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What about some happy moments?

*tumbleweed rolls past*

Danys' and Drogo's wedding night?
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What about some happy moments?

*tumbleweed rolls past*

Danys' and Drogo's wedding night?
Most would argue that was rape and nasty blah blah etc. But yes I suppose it was a somewhat happy night, was Danny's first steps into becoming the uber pewpew Queen of the world she'll nodoubt become :P
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Most would argue that was rape and nasty blah blah etc.
Nah, not most. Only a few I think; those that only see Dany as underage despite the fact that in GRRM's world she's not really underage. They ignore the fact that many if not most of the major players in this book are teenagers (or younger!) which means that people mature much quicker in this world. Also, killing is cool but sex is definitely not . Anyone who was really looking past the surface of that scene probably realizes that Dany took control of her life and her relationship with Drogo that night. In the end it was she who initiated the act of sex. But maybe we shouldn't have that argument again...or maybe it's already too late to stop it .
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Happy moments?

1) Jon being voted Lord Commander.

2) Sam gettin' it on.

3) That little bastard Joff choking.

4) Robb's intial victories
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Old 29th July 2008, 08:23 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Oi, earthquake here, you?

Jon giving Arya needle was happy. Umm, Bran climbing. Guess all that turned out!

Dark happy--Littlefinger making Lysa fly.
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Nah, not most. Only a few I think; those that only see Dany as underage despite the fact that in GRRM's world she's not really underage. They ignore the fact that many if not most of the major players in this book are teenagers (or younger!) which means that people mature much quicker in this world. Also, killing is cool but sex is definitely not . Anyone who was really looking past the surface of that scene probably realizes that Dany took control of her life and her relationship with Drogo that night. In the end it was she who initiated the act of sex. But maybe we shouldn't have that argument again...or maybe it's already too late to stop it .
*grin* Yea might just trigger -those- kind of people off again.

And Boaz I completly agree witcha about the Scheming bit.
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Jon found some sort of happiness with the Wildlings.
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3 of my top 5 were happy moments. Then there was one scene with Dani and Irri that made at least part of me happy.
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LOL!!

It just goes to show how grim ASOIAF is in that many of the 'happy' moments are when characters die.
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Happy stuff? My favourite is the rescue of Davos:

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