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Old 30th July 2008, 04:16 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Broken record much?

If you can't get over this Lacey, then go and puke your opinion on people who care about it.

Incidentally, I mentioned to Steve that he has been called a Cook hack, and he laughed, but said he would consider that title an honour. Ah well...
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Old 31st July 2008, 01:32 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Kruppe to me is steven Eriksson's jar-jar-bing. Really annoying at times. But then I haven't read the latest book, and I intend to take my time.

I thought that at 1st but no mate Kruppe is awesome,

Great book really really enjoyed it have to say one of his best so far, almost can't get over the end.

Naaaaa mate he not that much like Glen Cooke I have to say I have enjoyed black company and read them, off the back of Erickson talking about him, but they a different read I feel, although Black Company is cool.
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Old 31st July 2008, 02:01 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I cant believe people got this book before the release date! Why do amazon always send it to me on or after!!

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I don't think the whole book needs to be crash-bang-wallop, but 650 pages of snail's pace is a lot of snail's pace. He should balance it out more, spread it throughout.

Think of MoI - that was a big book, and it had two major set-pieces. One in the middle (Capustan) and one at the end (Coral). TtH has one, at the end. It made the rest of the book somewhat dull.
Rane Longfox, i agree with you regarding this comment. It can be said that there are two types of people in the world: those who like erikson, and those who do not. Needless to say that people who do not like erikson would/should not read his books, and so all reviews are from people who like him (if not, the word contradiction comes to mind). That said, I have come across reviews from people stating that they have scan-read this book because it is 'sooooo' slow and boring, but give it a bad review. And there is people's mistake. There is such much information in those 'slow' chapters that if you pay attention, it should keep your, ahem, attention.

This seems to be the case with Green. Like i said: so much information to keep you going until the end. For example (SPOILERS): gruntle's entrance and the implications. Am I the only one who is wondering about his capabilities. Then theres Kruppes scene with Baruk, the moon, bridgeburners, the dead segulah (not to mention the alive ones).

There is as much going on in this book as there is in the others, if you but look. It leads me to think that people like Green didnt give this book the attention it deserves/warrents, and indeed are only in it for the 'crash-bang-wallop'.

Oh and 'The Black Company' books are soooo good.
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Old 31st July 2008, 04:17 PM   #34 (permalink)
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So the reason I didn't like it is because I didn't give it the attention it deserves? Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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Old 31st July 2008, 04:38 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Well it seems that way. You are a fan of erikson, yes? So I can only surmise that you rushed the first bit of the book in your haste to finish? I apologise if I am wrong, however I found that (and I took my time reading it) there was plenty in the first three quarters of this book to keep the reader interested.

In your defence: I suppose it didnt help that previews compared this to MOI, which is anything but slow paced.
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Old 31st July 2008, 04:57 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I didn't realise I was on trial. Let me know how that goes.
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Old 1st August 2008, 08:55 AM   #37 (permalink)
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On trial? How melodramatic. How about explaining WHY you think it is slow instead of stating it. It is just I struggle to fathom why up to the Bonehunters you thought it was the best series you had read, only for the following books to have so utterly broken your liking of Erikson's series.

You do make a good point about the dead not being dead though, that tends to happen alot in fantasy nowadays. Erikson should take Martin's lead on that front.
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Old 14th October 2008, 06:43 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Hooray, it's arrived! My copy has arrived at last!
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Old 16th October 2008, 01:26 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I have studied the maps then read the Dramatis Personae. So many of my favourite characters have returned, says Rosie, including that 'little round man'!

Now if you will excuse me, I have a book to read


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Old 22nd October 2008, 05:15 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Trying again. It's driving me to distraction the POV shifts every two to three pages, and there are so many POVs.
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Old 23rd October 2008, 11:00 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I'm just collecting my copy to-morrow!
I can't wait to start.
The series is the best thing i've read,can't get enough!Has everybody read ICE's novels?Equally good in a different style IMO
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Old 24th October 2008, 02:58 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I had my copy to keep me company when the hurricane hit houston. It was a welcomed diversion. I do have to say that the Iskarul Pust and Kruppe scene with the war donkeys had me holding my sides and rolling on the floor. I have fallen in love with the majority of the characters that i have been introduced to. I didnt get my copy early but it took me 3 days to read it. I am now chewing on my fingernails for the next one. I dont like that waiting
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Old 1st November 2008, 06:37 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I’m half way through Toll The Hounds. Erikson is also very good at describing the situation that confronts us. Also the state of a low-down dwelling, the large estates and his characters. The conversations between the same two characters in other books, are still written in the same way as before, with dry wit. He’s also extremely good at describing the various types of countrysides – the plains, the areas which grow fruit and other produce, the sea and it’s coastal villages. This gives a long journey something to break the monotony!
I haven’t notice it in previous books but in ‘Toll The Hounds’, there is some action but seems to be more emphasis on the ‘thoughts’ of his characters. Has anyone else noticed this?
It's taken me longer to read but I am enjoying it.
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Old 5th December 2008, 09:38 PM   #44 (permalink)
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My favourite line ever comes form toll the hounds "The souls greatest anguish is a breath taken in love that ends with grief" For some odd reason this line just jumped out at me.
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Old 2nd January 2009, 11:08 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Just a question fella's:

What does the title "Toll the Hounds" imply?
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