SPOILERS: A New Theory on Jon

[Jinglehopper]

Originally Posted by AryaUnderfoot

I "think" I'm going to throw up.

LOL. I told you it was farfetched.

[AryaUnderfoot]

Yeah, farfetched is one word for it. Having been to West Virginia a couple of times, I know what incest can produce. It's not pretty. I'd rather not think of one of my favorite characters that way. If you're right, I'll forever be picturing Jon Snow with a mullet.

[hodor]

HAHAHA.... I haven't heard the word mullet used in forever.

[Winters_Sorrow]

Originally Posted by Jinglehopper

I too think that the Robert+Lyanna=Jon theory is probably incorrect. More than the proofs supplied here, it doesn't really seem to fit in with Martin's work. Of course that doesn't mean we can't talk about it!

Here's a crazy far-fetched theory. When Ned finds out about Cersei's incest with Jaime in AGOT, he doesn't really seem that disgusted. He's only concerned with Joffrey being illegitimate and therefore not an heir to the throne.

What if, and here's the big one, what if Jon is Ned and Lyanna's son? They seem to have had a strong relationship that went beyond mere brother and sister. It may fall apart if we think about timelines, as Ned's whereabouts were as well known as Robert's during the rebellion. It would certainly explain Lyanna wanting him to keep a secret.

Thoughts?

It also wouldn't explain why the top 3 of the Kingsguard were there guarding Lyanna!
I think GRRM is leaving some pretty big hints that it is Rhaegar & Lyanna's child - there might be a twist in this but it would make more sense for there not to be!

You're right about the lack of revulsion in the seven kingdoms towards incest - possibly because anyone saying suchlike probably got killed by the King & his wife/sister!!

As a lot of GRRM's writing is inspired by historical settings, I wonder if this was? The only (mild) version of this which I am aware of is Queen Victoria being closely related to the Russian royal family and I think in the past, there were instances of close cousins marrying each other - nothing on the scale of brother/sister though (you wouldn't get much of a political or economic benefit, would you?)

[AryaUnderfoot]

Okay here's a crazy theory: What is Lyanna was asexual, like a snail, and therefore was able to produce her own young without any help from a man?



Just kidding... sorry, feeling a little weird today.

[hodor]

Originally Posted by AryaUnderfoot

Okay here's a crazy theory: What is Lyanna was asexual, like a snail, and therefore was able to produce her own young without any help from a man?



Just kidding... sorry, feeling a little weird today.

What if Lyanna never had a kid... what if she got Ned pregnant?

[AryaUnderfoot]

Originally Posted by hodor

What if Lyanna never had a kid... what if she got Ned pregnant?

HAHAHA, that would make for a very good reason for him to be hush-hush about the whole thing.

Also, Hodor, I'm not sure how long it has been since you've revisited the states, but... BEWARE. Mullets are coming back. I know, it's sad, but the advent of the retro-80's fashion, complete with legwarmers, dragged some of the bad hair with it.

[hodor]

Oh jeez! I am glad my daughter will be born in France then... I was in Phoenix for christmas but never noticed anything stranger than the usual... hmmm did I just say that?

[AryaUnderfoot]

Yes, beware of the power of the mullet! It cannot be conquered, especially not by democrats.

[Jinglehopper]

Originally Posted by hodor

What if Lyanna never had a kid... what if she got Ned pregnant?

I laughed at my cubicle so loud that my neighbor asked me if I was okay. Hilarious.

[hodor]

I am always happy to be of service.... I must adjust the lime on my head so please excuse me.

[AryaUnderfoot]

Haha Hodor you're a hoot.

[hodor]

Only for beautiful women....

[AryaUnderfoot]

Okay so I'm wondering about some more obscure characters that have sort of left the scene, but I'm beginning to think that they'll have bigger parts to play.

The first one that comes to mind is Gendry. I think he'll pop up later on for sure, and maybe find out that he's Robert's bastard. Also, did anyone else notice that he may have feelings for Arya that are beyond just those of a good friend?

[Jinglehopper]

I certainly did notice that, Arya. But I feel like Gendry might be an abandoned storyline though. He was important when Ned was still trying to hold the kingdom together, but things have progressed so far past that now. The best we can hope is that Gendry will rule house baratheon after Stannis is killed by the Others.