George R. R. Martin v. Robert Jordan

[Culhwch]

Originally Posted by Rahl Windsong

But until then we don't know what Tyrion is up to and that is just not acceptable, like I said I had that feeling of being ripped off with AFFC and it won't go away any time soon.

I'm not the biggest Tyrion fan anyway, so I found it perfectly acceptable...

[Boaz]

Originally Posted by Culhwch

I'm not the biggest Tyrion fan

Thou wast ever an obstinate heretic, Cul.

We've hashed and rehashed the reasons for the division of books. It is what it is. Though I tend to think that if Martin had gone chronologically instead of regionally, then those of us Tyrion, Jon, and Dany fanatics would have almost skipped over the Brienne, Areo, Arys, Arianne, Asha, Aeron, and Victarion chapters trying to get more of our old favorites.

I wonder about the creative process that Martin went/ is going through in finishing the AFFC/ADWD story. Did he attempt to write the story chronologically? Does he get into a character and take that character as far as he can and then switch to another character? I wonder if the writing processes for the first three books were character driven or timeline driven?

I wonder how many times Martin writes a chapter and then realizes the story would be better told from a different character's point of view? Take for instance the Kingsmoot of the Ironborn. GRRM could have given us Asha or Victarion instead of Aeron. How about Joffrey's and Margaery's wedding? We saw it from Tyrion's POV, yet it could have come from Sansa or even Cersei. Now the ultimate confluence of POV characters is at Robert's feast at Winterfell. We get that story courtesy of Jon, but also present were Eddard, Catelyn, Sansa, Arya, Bran, Theon, Cersei, Jaime, and Tyrion. So did GRRM write the Kingsmoot from Asha's POV and then realize that it could be better told from Victarion's POV and then after writing that realize that Aeron's would be better still? I wonder.

[Culhwch]

Originally Posted by Boaz

We've hashed and rehashed the reasons for the division of books. It is what it is. Though I tend to think that if Martin had gone chronologically instead of regionally, then those of us Tyrion, Jon, and Dany fanatics would have almost skipped over the Brienne, Areo, Arys, Arianne, Asha, Aeron, and Victarion chapters trying to get more of our old favorites.

I fancy if he'd split it in two chronologically, folks would still be annoyed. Except they'd be saying, 'Why'd you leave Tyrion/Jon/Dany/Whoever with such a cliffhanger and then make us wait fourteen years for the next book?' instead of the current, 'Why'd you leave Tyrion/Jon/Dany/Whoever out altogether and then make us wait fourteen years for the next book?'

[citri]

This thread gave me a hell of a laugh just now. I haven't checked up on it in literally months and it had hit a roadblock of sorts and now I just look at it and it's 7 pages long. Really got me laughing, especially because I had no idea what you guys were talking about when I looked at the last few comments.

[Beamer]

Personally I really liked WoT, even the later books that some call poor. I admit to being agravated from time to time when he seemed unable to tie off any loose ends or if he did he would untie them in a later book.

As far as GRRM and his books I admit to haveing a personal bias against him. I have been lucky enough to have met both of them although it was years apart as they both were guests at a convention which I have been going to for the last 30 plus years in St Louis. When I met GRRM he was a relatively new author and I had purchased and read what I think was his first book at the time "Dying of the Light" and took it to the convention to get it signed by him since I knew he was going to be a guest. When I met him and asked him to sign my copy, he refused and stated he would only sign books that had been purchased from him. So I have to admit I have not purchased a book he has written since then. I have purchased the Wildcard books he edited though however.