George R. R. Martin v. Robert Jordan

[The Curious Orange]

Originally Posted by viZion

If you have any interest at all in dresses and taking baths then I highly recommend The Wheel of Time. By the time you finish reading WoT you'll be a minor expert in both subjects. Because nothing says detail like 3 pages at a time dedicated to describing the dress of every female character in the current scene. Or 3 chapters devoted to one character preparing for and then taking a bath.

You'll also learn that females have exactly *one* emotional response to any stressful situation... ANGER. You'll find that the best way for females to display their ANGER is to smooth the skirt of their dress. This technique is effective in almost any situation. It would be a crime to have a messy dress after so many words have been devoted to describing every its every thread.

And tugging their braids, they seem to do that a lot. And folding their arms beneath their breasts (where else are they going to fold them?)
The worst problem with the lengthy description of every stitch on the dresses is that they are copied verbatim from book to book. RJ didn't so much write these books as cut-and-paste bits out of the last few tomes to create a new one.

[Memnoch]

Originally Posted by The Curious Orange

And folding their arms beneath their breasts (where else are they going to fold them?).

above them (if it's an old maids with erm a lifetime of baby feeding)

or over them if they are less endowed? . . .



RJ sucks, GRRM is awesome (but is taking to long with the next volume)

[Qhorin Halfhand]

Originally Posted by Memnoch

or over them if they are less endowed? . . .

Less endowed? Which characters would this be in the Wheel of Time? I guess the male ones...

[TK-421]

Originally Posted by Memnoch

(but is taking to long with the next volume)

Ugghhh!

[Tysha]

Originally Posted by pan naranus

Non, they can't read...

I think you are exaggerate, we are not talking about Harry Potter section after all.

*prepared to be attacked by WOT and HP fans*

[TK-421]

Now, now...that was uncalled for Tysha.

[Memnoch]

Originally Posted by TK-421

Ugghhh!

Why Uggghhh!

[TK-421]

Oh darn, now I have to respond to a direct why question.

Just a subject that has been flogged to death and that whenever it comes up, someone say something silly and we all jump on them. While your sentiment about it may be one that is shared by many people, most of us here have resigned ourselves to just wait patiently because nothing we can do or say can change the reality that ADWD will be published only when GRRM has finished.

Anyway, that's all I'll say on the subject in the hope of NOT reigniting another debate about it.

[Tysha]

Oh I get it, in this thread it's allowed to mock WOT only, sorry
Come on TK! You sound so bitter, almost like Dolorous Edd :P

[Weasel Soup]

I'm sorry but does anyone else see the absolute humor in the wheel of time's anagram? lol

wrong vowel.....

and boaz's earlier post is dead on

[TK-421]

Bitter? That's a new one. I guess there was a tone to my typing that I did not intend to be there.

Anywho, ASOIF and HP have nothing in common and I rather enjoy both series. Mocking WOT is a perfectly acceptable sport. Next up, the Sword of Truth series...

[pan naranus]

Sword of truth...
Book one readable, X rated, but readable, you BDSM people, enjoy. The rest of it - don't bother.

[Clansman]

Mocking Sword of Truth is too easy. Talk about fish in a barrel, and there are numerous threads on the Chrons that bash Goodkind. As one of the bashers, I must admit, it is getting a little boring.

ASoIaF is head and shoulders above WoT, but WoT is not bad. Would have approached great if he finished it in 8 or 9 books and his editors had bothered to care about the quality of the series instead of trying to make more money.

I would put ASoIaF in the same class as Erikson's Malazan Book of the Fallen and Janny Wurts' Wars of Light and Shadow for a better comparison than Jordan. The first three authors show an incredible ability to juggle huge story lines with hundreds of sub-plots and a large number of POVs. The first three have also sustained the freshness of their stories, although I haven't worked through all the Malazan books yet (I suspect this to be true, as I trust the Chrons, and have the first three books). Though at least Martin and Wurts have had "difficult" books in their series (AFFC for Martin, and Peril's Gate for Wurts), I suspect that the difficulty of these particular books will prove themselves necessary down the line.

Jordan wasn't quite able to pull off what Martin, Wurts and Erikson have, and it totally unwound for him in books 7-10. Too bad, because I really did enjoy the first half of the series.

[The Curious Orange]

Waiting ages for the next volume? Some of you people need to try waiting for Ricardo Pinto to finish the last book in his excellent Stone Dance of the Chameleon trilogy. He makes GRRM look like the fastest writer in the world.

[Memnoch]

Originally Posted by Tysha

Oh I get it, in this thread it's allowed to mock WOT only, sorry
:P

No this thread asks a specific question . . . Mr Jordan is losing quite convincingly I'm afraid!


As for setting in for a patient wait for GRRM's next installment!!! Well it was you GRRM lunatic's on here that persuaded me to give it ago 2 years ago!!! Now I am a freak like you lot!! I am not a patient person. I also now will have to re-read the entire series once a definate date is announced for the new arrival!! (Not that it will be a hardship)