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Old 25th May 2008, 08:34 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Sci-Fi/Fantasy: Gay characters?

Sam Gamgee, Frodo Baggins and Gollum.... more electricity than Alan Bates and Oliver Reed in 'Women in Love'

Did I just cross the line?
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Old 26th May 2008, 10:11 PM   #17 (permalink)
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No. You've just been reading too much slash fiction.

Juliet McKenna has a major character who is gay in her Tales of Einarrin series
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Old 6th June 2008, 04:38 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Hi,

This is my first post on here, I've only just discovered the site. No one's mentioned one of the best SF books around: C J Cherryh's Cyteen. The main 'hero' and his 'Azi' are lovers although it's never really questioned. The whole book is really about 'nature & nurture', what makes an individual and so on. I've also just finished Greg Egan's 'Teranesia' in which the main character is gay and homosexuality comes up alot in his fiction: the short story 'cocoon' (recently republished in the book 'Luminious') is explicitly about the age old question "what if you could stop your child being born gay?".

My first ever book was an Asimov, I'd just started reading at the late age of 10, and vividly remember being 13 or so when I first came across a gay character - it was a revelation (and a good one, "we are not alone"!). As an aside, there's a new kids ("young adult" yuk!) book (new in the UK anyway) called 'Hero' by Perry Moore (ISBN 9780552555869) about a boy who is learning he's a superhero. The tag line is "every superhero has a secret" - Guess what his is... It's a lovely book and I only wish I'd been given it when I was 14 or 15.
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Old 13th June 2008, 08:22 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Sci-Fi/Fantasy: Gay characters?

Though I'm new here, I'll take a crack at this one as it's of particular interest to me.

The easy answer is: anything can work in a novel if it's written well. The hard answer is: homosexuality is still very taboo amongst a lot of readers. It makes them feel uncomfortable. It's a challenge for me, as I know for a fact, one of my character's is gay in a novel I'm writing.

What I've found works in writing a gay character is less is more. Make him a character first, a gay man/knight/kid second. If he's a likable character first, then we find out he's gay halfway through the novel, most readers can digest it.

The best example I can think of is Albus Dumbledore from Harry Potter - we had no idea he was a homosexual character, yet the fact he was revealed to be gay after the fact really casts an extra level of illumination on him, and really wasn't unbelievable, given how he acted in many situations.

Hope this helps!
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Old 12th November 2008, 07:14 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I am reading an extraordinary book right now in which the main character is bisexual. It seems to be the norm in the culture, not thought twice about. It might help to have it be the 'cultural norm'.
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I am reading an extraordinary book right now in which the main character is bisexual. It seems to be the norm in the culture, not thought twice about. It might help to have it be the 'cultural norm'.

What is the name of the book and author? Curious (read nosy) minds wish to know.
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Old 13th November 2008, 01:05 AM   #22 (permalink)
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'Maia ' by richard adams. My new favorite.
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Old 23rd November 2008, 01:23 AM   #23 (permalink)
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In Kushiel's Legacy series, most the characters swing both ways, including the main character who has sex for money, and enjoys a little S&M


So I don't see why not.
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Richard Morgan goes to great lengths in The Steel Remains to keep reminding the reader that his main character is, yep, still gay (to the point of having other characters in the parallel storylines reminisce about him, with particular emphasis on his predeliction for naughty sex with those of the same gender).

The take home message is, I guess, that you don't need to be worried about having to be subtle or suggestive for fear of never getting published or finding readers - although personally I found that The Steel Remains laboured the point so heavily that the publisher might as well have retitled it Gay Swordsman Epic and sold it wrapped in a Pride flag.
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Currently, sf/fantasy needs all the alternate sexuality it can get- if only to ensure Orson Scott Card never sleeps well again.
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