Did "Deathly Hallows" feel like it was ghost written?

[dekket]

The other day my Father in Law stated that when he was reading Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, he thought that it felt like it had been ghost written.

I strongly disagreed with him (but I really don't think I actually made a very good argument ), so I would like to hear other peoples opinions on why it was definately J. K. Rowlings work.

This will thus leave me better prepared for the next time we are discussing Harry Potter books.

Thanks.

[orionsixwings]

Originally Posted by dekket

The other day my Father in Law stated that when he was reading Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, he thought that it felt like it had been ghost written.

I strongly disagreed with him (but I really don't think I actually made a very good argument ), so I would like to hear other peoples opinions on why it was definately J. K. Rowlings work.

This will thus leave me better prepared for the next time we are discussing Harry Potter books.

Thanks.

I've never been a fan of Rowling. Not when it came to her writing anyway. Most of the things she used in her fic had been conceptualized by other writers (i.e. Neil Gaiman, Philip Pullman, Terry Pratchett), and the plotline of the saga is also not unique. But I have read all the HP books and I think your father in law may have a point. Honestly, there was far too much fan-service in DH and I have read countless fanfictions for HP that are almost too similar to DH that I actually thought I was reading a fanfic!

[Majimaune]

I had never really thought of it as 'ghost written' but now you say that, yes I can see the point.

I agree with Orion (nice to see you again btw, its been a while) It was too much a service to the fans and more like a fanfic than anything else.

[SpaceShip]

Am I the only person in the world who's never read her work? There are just some authors' books (or the authors themselves) that I just look at and say "no", just like there are some films that are around and I don't want to go and see them. Anyone else like me?

[Culhwch]

No, I never felt that it was written by anyone other than Rowling, though perhaps there was some catering to fans going on. I wasn't really a part of any fan discussion though, so I'm not really sure that the book correlated with fan expectations...

SS - being a children's author I'd have thought you'd want to read Rowling if only out of professional interest...

[Teresa Edgerton]

Well, authors can get burned-out on a series. Anyone else could wait and hope for the inspiration to return, but with the whole world (minus SpaceShip and myself*, and perhaps a handful of others) clamoring for the next installment, she might have been tempted to just write the darn book, get it done, and get it over with.

If this was actually the case (and it's not even speculation on my part, just a possibility I'm throwing out there), in the absence of any compelling vision of her own she might easily be guided by her readers' expectations.

Either that, or she's been subtly molding her reader's expectations from the beginning so that their desires would ultimately fall in perfectly with what she had planned to write all along.

*Unlike SS, I did read the first three, but then decided I didn't care enough to go on reading the series.

[Grimward]

To elaborate on Teresa's point about getting it done and over with, if you're JK Rowling and you've made the decision that this is the last book, it's easy to see how you have only this one last chance to address everything you wanted to. Whether her fans' interests affected that need or not, only she would know. Being in that state alone might have been enough to warp her style out of it's norm, although I personally think you can watch her style evolve over the entire series. Her style did seem a little different from Half Blood Prince, but then HBP seemed different from Order of the Phoenix. I found it interesting to watch her style evolve along with the characters and, if one considers Sorceror's/Philosopher's Stone a book for elementary children (I personally don't, but then I'm a sucker for a good story, regardless of it's usual audience!), you could even say that her style evolved to match and challenge that initial audience of elementary school kids. At least, I like to think that might have been one of her intentions (okay, maybe we need to add "delusional" to "sucker"!).

[Teresa Edgerton]

Originally Posted by Grimward

I'm a sucker for a good story, regardless of it's usual audience!

In that case, you might like to visit our YA forum, if you haven't already. We could use some new blood to revive some of the discussions there.

http://www.sffchronicles.co.uk/forum...adult-fiction/

[SpaceShip]

Originally Posted by Culhwch

SS - being a children's author I'd have thought you'd want to read Rowling if only out of professional interest...

Just couldn't bring myself to do so Culhwch (and did you know you featured in my second book?) but don't really know why! But I think one reason is that if anyone says I am copying her, well I can honestly say I don't know how as I've never read any of her books. Secondly, I love history and try to weave my stories through with some ancient or historical fact (they are written in the post-Roman/Dark Ages). As far as I know, there is no history in the Harry Potter books - purely fantasy. Correct me if I'm wrong (and knowing everyone at the Chrons - they ain't slow in doing that!!!)

[Scarfy]

In case you've never heard it before, most will find the following link highly amusing

Film director sparks debate over origins of 'Harry Potter' - Aftenposten.no

[SpaceShip]

Now why didn't I think of writing something like that Scarfy? Perhaps dragging up some sort of theory that evokes controversial debate might get me noticed! Hmm. Wonder how her film directing is going these days.

[Culhwch]

Originally Posted by SpaceShip

(and did you know you featured in my second book?)

I'm still waiting for my royalties...

And actually, though they aren't works of historical fiction, JK does seem to have an interest in classical history and mythology, and there are dozens of references for those who know what they are looking at...

[orionsixwings]

Originally Posted by Majimaune

I agree with Orion (nice to see you again btw, its been a while)

Thanks! Yeah, it's been too long! I miss this place.

Originally Posted by Majimaune

It was too much a service to the fans and more like a fanfic than anything else.

As for Deathly Hallows, I think Teresa has hit it right at the head. JK might have been dying to end the series and start on something new (or maybe just have time to enjoy all that money she's made from writing the series). That would be a good excuse. I also can't help wondering if this was really how she intended the Harry Potter story to end (or begin). I did read an interview of hers once and she said that she had to edit the story because the publishers told her to. The original setting of Harry Potter was apparently too dark for the target audience and JK had to dilute it quite a lot just to get it published. Of course, she can do whatever now, but back then she can't afford to be pushy. Maybe her original vision for this story got modified too much, which might be the cause for the swiss-cheesed ending.


I don't know.

[The Procrastinator]

It didn't feel ghostwritten to me but it did feel like there was a definite awareness of the fans in there, as distinct from the audience - which wasn't present in the earliest books, came to figure slightly in the last one or two, but was really noticeable in DH. I reckon she was feeling the pressure of ten billion seething eyeballs - and who wouldn't...

[dekket]

I do suppose that having the entire world looking over your shoulder, looking at their watches, and muttering about how aweful the wait between books was, would have been a factor. Especially as everyone would have had there own ideas about how the last book would unfold.