The 'Baddest' Baddies

[Essie]

Who do reckon are the baddest baddies? I'm talking TV sci-fi here.

I can't make my mind up - I think there are a few up for the award - possibly the most obvious being the Daleks - pure evil and nothing redeeming. What do you all reckon?

[Montero]

The Shadows from B5 - because they thought they were doing it for our own good. Said natural selection would then tend to breed the meanest, nastiest races so we could keep on doing it to each other.

The Daleks "only" kill.

There was one fairly good Dalek - Zek (is that the spelling?) - the human hybrid in 1930s New York - not that he lasted long

[HoopyFrood]

Black Dalek Sec, his name was.

Hem.

Love that Dalek

[Overread]

"We are the Borg. Lower your shields and prepare to surrender. We will add your biological and technological distinctivness to our own."

nasty creatures - created by the whim of a madman seeking perfection in machinery. Like a hive of ants they consumed all in thier path in thier quest for perfection

[andrew.v.spencer]

Tinky winky, dipsy, laa-laa and po.

You never see any humans, except on tape... where are they? EATEN eh-oh.

And their nice den or should I say lair? A Slaughter class battle cruiser, half buried for disguise.

My god what is wrong with you people? It's all there to see, THEY'VE IMPRISONED A BABY IN THE SUN, IN THE SUN FOR GOD SAKE... BURNING FOREVER.

[Essie]

Oh yes I hadn't thought of the Shadows - good choice.

I'm sure no-one round here will disagree with the Teletubbies!!!

[nj1]

Originally Posted by andrew.v.spencer

Tinky winky, dipsy, laa-laa and po.

You never see any humans, except on tape... where are they? EATEN eh-oh.

And their nice den or should I say lair? A Slaughter class battle cruiser, half buried for disguise.

My god what is wrong with you people? It's all there to see, THEY'VE IMPRISONED A BABY IN THE SUN, IN THE SUN FOR GOD SAKE... BURNING FOREVER.

Excellant. Can't stop laughing

[Ursa major]

Never mind one baby trapped in the sun, what about all those toddlers trapped in the Teletubbies' stomachs.

[andrew.v.spencer]

Yes slow digestion.

[Talysia]

I can't make up my mind between the Daleks and the Borg at the moment. I'll have to think about this one.

[Quokka]

Are the Borg really 'bad', from their point of view they are seeking perfection and helping everyone else by including them, I always thought the early Borg were great characters before they started to get watered down and certainly some of the scariest baddies, exactly because it wasn't emotion driving them but logic, all be it flawed logic from our point of view

As far as TV sci-fi goes aren't the baddest baddies usually 'The Government'?

I don't really know Dr Who or B5 but what about Stargate's Goa'uld? In some ways they seem badder then most who tend to have some justification, to themselves at least, for why their actions are either right or needed but the Goa'uld enslave and deceive billions simply so they can play god, knowing full well they aren't. That's just mean.

But then again i suppose what would you rather be a Goa'uld slave or a Borg drone

[Connavar]

Stargate's Goa'uld and The Wraith are really bad baddies. The Wraith give me the creeps with the hole lets eat humans thing.

The Cylon clones in new BSG is well done villains too. Their ruthlesness and religion craze is what makes them one of the baddest villains.

[Talysia]

Originally Posted by Quokka

Are the Borg really 'bad', from their point of view they are seeking perfection and helping everyone else by including them, I always thought the early Borg were great characters before they started to get watered down and certainly some of the scariest baddies, exactly because it wasn't emotion driving them but logic, all be it flawed logic from our point of view

As far as TV sci-fi goes aren't the baddest baddies usually 'The Government'?

I don't really know Dr Who or B5 but what about Stargate's Goa'uld? In some ways they seem badder then most who tend to have some justification, to themselves at least, for why their actions are either right or needed but the Goa'uld enslave and deceive billions simply so they can play god, knowing full well they aren't. That's just mean.

Actually, that's a good point about the Borg. I'd forgotten about the Goa'uld, too - thinking about it, seeing the way they enslave races and such, they are pretty evil.

[UltraCulture]

My worst nightmare would be to bump into a Vidiian(ST-VOY) down a dark alley and having a few organs removed.

Give me assimilation anyday.

[pyan]

Or, while we're with Voyager, how about Species 8472?