The 'Baddest' Baddies

[Xwing Mom]

Hmmm...I think the really "bad" villains are folks like Senator Kinsey from Stargate....his type of evil is really hard to fight. The heroes can usually find a way to defeat, overcome, take out, decimate, overthrow (you get the picture) the obvious baddies that have been mentioned here. Maybe what makes Kinsey's type so threatening is there are actually folks like him at work in the world today.

[Connavar]

Originally Posted by Ursa major

The Replicators became less scary when they started to take on human-like forms. Before that, they were more like a force of (artificial) nature.

Yeah the ones in SG1 was more powerful than the ones created by ancients in SGA.


The ones in SG1 was almost unstoppable plus they had the bug look that is easy to give you the creeps. There is nothing nice by ever multiplying bugs that cant be stopped.

[steve bolger]

i was trying to think of the name of the baddies, after the goauld, in sg1.the ones within the arthur, merlin context

[Talysia]

Do you mean the Ori (I think that's how it was spelt)? Or am I thinking of something else?

[Essie]

Originally Posted by steve bolger

i was trying to think of the name of the baddies, after the goauld, in sg1.the ones within the arthur, merlin context

I'm really surprised that anyone mentioned the Ori. To me, although virtually omnipotent they seem completely lacking any real fear factor. Not really sure why that is.

[Talysia]

I must admit, when the Ori were introduced, I was a bit underwhelmed too. The potential for title of baddest baddie was there (wiping out races/planets at a time, just because they didn't believe in them) but I agree with Essie - I didn't think there was any real fear factor for me as a viewer. Mind you, at that point I was getting a little fatigued with the series, so that might explain it.

[Steve Jordan]

I'm thinking of one guy: NuBSG's Gaius Balthar.

Gave away security secrets for the sake of tail. Cowered behind his girlfriend's skirts as humanity was nuked. Pretends to be working for the sake of humanity's preservation, and for the Cylons' mission of genocide in secret, when really all he's doing is working for his selfish self. And finally, he knows all this, and he truly loathes himself for it, but he's too chickens**t to just shoot himself.

Now, that's evil.

[steve bolger]

What about the baddies in Andromeda?I can't remember their name... I think they laid eggs inside their victims that hatched and ate their way out! or maybe it was just a bad dream of mine.Does anybody remember their name?

[Steve Jordan]

Originally Posted by steve bolger

What about the baddies in Andromeda?I can't remember their name... I think they laid eggs inside their victims that hatched and ate their way out! or maybe it was just a bad dream of mine.Does anybody remember their name?

No, you didn't dream it... that was the Magog. One of their number was aboard their ship, Rev Bem (bat ears, bad skin). That was bad, but it was more of a survival instinct... not intentionally bad.

[K. Riehl]

I would vote for Ming the Merciless.

[steve bolger]

I think your just being flash!................... I'm sorry

[RodneyMcKay]

The Wraith are definetly evil... but In one episode - of which the name escapes me - you do see they arn't entirely evil. John and a Wraith are imprisoned together and they help each other to escape. At one point the Wraith says he is just happy to be able to see the stars again for heaven sake, what type of evil villian is that?

[Sire Of Dragons]

My take on the Wraith or any other species we might consider as evil is that they are simply the way they are with no moral concept as we would think of it.

The BORG or even the clones in Star Wars, were simply born or created or programmed a certain way and know no different. The Terminator is a good example.

Who knows, some things are just spawned from evil.

The show the Shield...can you be a good cop and corrupt as well?

Sometimes, its a lot easier to justify a bad guys reasoning in the movies, and other times you're ecstatic to see them destroyed or made to suffer.

One of my favorite's is the statement by Agent Smith in The Matrix
"Humans Are A Disease"

There is a fine line between good and evil on Hollywood sets.

[RodneyMcKay]

Maybe you're right... or they only do it to live (I'm refrencing the wraith again).
I mean, for example, if you are on a planet with the only edible food source being talking deer (with feelings and emotions) and you were dying, would you rather:
a) not eat to save the deer or
b) eat the deer and live

I feel like my Religion teacher right now

McKay

[Sire Of Dragons]

Thats a whole different concept now. You're talking eating a more intelligent species now.

I feed the deer who come thru my yard. If I were to hunt one I'd have to go some place else.

I think if any of our animals could actually speak and have intellectual conversations, I'm sure they wouldn't have a lot of good to say about the lot of us.

I think we would have a lot more vegetarians if we were not the only "alleged" intelligent species. Yes I said it "alleged".

Sometimes too much knowledge or intellect is the evil in itself.

Stop eating the damn apples!!!